• AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    how can you possibly be born in and live in Cuba and fall for the “american dream” lie

    Fuckin how!

    I can’t begin to imagine how tough it can get under the embargo, but like, under the UNITED STATES embargo!!? Maybe flee from your conditions to somewhere OTHER THAN the place that made your home conditions bad, and is actively turning to open anti immigrant fascism?!

    • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      The Cubans in the article never use the phrase “American dream” or even allude to it.

      From a self-interested standpoint, fleeing your extremely poor country to the global hegemon right next door (which does actually support Cuban immigrants some of the time for the purpose of luring more out and also doing red scare shit) makes sense. Even several prominent Republicans are from Cuban families and many more make a big show of supporting them (though there are many holes in this because it’s just for show outside of political coalitions).

      The article does the “defector” distortion that these articles always do where they just treat people who flee Cuba, the DPRK, etc. as having basically exactly the same opinions as a conservative of the country that they are fleeing to, when mostly what’s happening is that they don’t want to starve and calculate (with reason) that the best way to do that is to go to the neighboring capitalist hellhole that nonetheless does not suffer from sanctions and such. I disagree with these people, but I think they weren’t behaving senselessly, it just gets misrepresented in a way that you and I know would be senseless by neoliberal media.

      • buttwater [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Well said. Earlier this year, I was in a Lyft and the driver only spoke Spanish. I can speak some, so I struck up a conversation with him. He was from Cuba, and when I asked about his life there, he said “all bad” and gave a thumbs down. He didn’t specify, but surely the economic situation played a role in his decision to leave. Unfortunately he didn’t give any other info; I would have really liked to hear his perspective

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Never spent much time in south Florida have you?

      The amount of pro America anti Cuba Cubans are insanely high. Like not even single digit percent, double digit. For first gen immigrants probably high double digit. America has a lot more money than Cuba, and that’s what they’re seeking.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        Never spent much time in south Florida have you?

        okay but isn’t that population largely formed and informed by much earlier waves of immigration? I’m taking about people who were born there 40 years ago and never had any slaves to get taken away from them, you know?

        Also no, I don’t make a habit of going to florida lol, what am I, the ocean?

  • blobjim [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    For much of the Cold War, Cubans leaving the island for the US were officially derided by Cuban leaders as “worms” or traitors to Castro’s revolution.

    lol CNN throwing in a “gusanos” out of nowhere.

    “Donald Trump only has three years left, I have the rest of my life,” Reyes said. “I will go and get her. I don’t care if they give me 20 years in jail.”

    Well said!