No, what you describe is chaos. Anarchy means there are no rulers. People rule themselves and are also looking out for each other thus enforcing the minimum set of rules that are necessary to have a stable society. Rules can come from a consensus, yes.
A current example is the anarchist punk camp on Sylt where it was decided that dogs need to be on a leash when your are in the camp. If someone sees someone with a dog without a leash, they tell them of the decision and why it was made and that’s it.
Not to mention the obvious fact that a position of, “rule enforcer”, even where necessary like like tracking down and imprisoning a murderer, needn’t be a permanent role given to people that can then abuse others with that authority.
Anarchism doesn’t mean zero authority. It means no unjustified authority.
Since writing that last comment I have that funny thought of a diplomacy lottery in my head where it’s randomly decided who will join a trained diplomat or experts on state visits to represent the people. “… And this year… Dale will visit the environmental summit with our experts in …” followed by an AMA where Dale can share their impressions. I’d love it ;D
“I learned that it’s just a retreat for rich fucks to suck themselves off and pretend like they’re saving the world while changing nothing for the better.”
No. They only receive the authority to do a specific thing. They go out of bounds? That’s OBVIOUSLY an abuse of authority and they’ll get themselves in trouble.
1: a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
Yeah, those are definitions when used as a literary term, or an extreme example. You’re not wrong that anarchy can refer to no rules at all, but social contracts and agreements can exist and it still be anarchy just fine.
The same thing that happens anywhere else? A power struggle between the people who want it and don’t? Are you implying this is unique to anarchism in some way? I don’t see why it would be.
There is a legal recourse, you’re saying someone with power ignored the law and attempted a coup… do you think coups don’t happen in non anarchist countries? How is this unique to anarchism in any way?
Give one historical example of this happening to an anarchist commune?
also anarchists have all of those legal frameworks in place as well, this is simply not true and has no historical basis.
In nearly every example I have read about they have been destroyed through military might of an external power, see revolutionary catalonia and the zapatistas as examples. It turns out rich capitalists don’t want anarchism to work, and desperately try to destroy it.
Anarchy is explicitly against “profits”.
And it doesn’t mean that there are no rules but no rulers.
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No, what you describe is chaos. Anarchy means there are no rulers. People rule themselves and are also looking out for each other thus enforcing the minimum set of rules that are necessary to have a stable society. Rules can come from a consensus, yes.
A current example is the anarchist punk camp on Sylt where it was decided that dogs need to be on a leash when your are in the camp. If someone sees someone with a dog without a leash, they tell them of the decision and why it was made and that’s it.
Not to mention the obvious fact that a position of, “rule enforcer”, even where necessary like like tracking down and imprisoning a murderer, needn’t be a permanent role given to people that can then abuse others with that authority.
Anarchism doesn’t mean zero authority. It means no unjustified authority.
Since writing that last comment I have that funny thought of a diplomacy lottery in my head where it’s randomly decided who will join a trained diplomat or experts on state visits to represent the people. “… And this year… Dale will visit the environmental summit with our experts in …” followed by an AMA where Dale can share their impressions. I’d love it ;D
“I learned that it’s just a retreat for rich fucks to suck themselves off and pretend like they’re saving the world while changing nothing for the better.”
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No. They only receive the authority to do a specific thing. They go out of bounds? That’s OBVIOUSLY an abuse of authority and they’ll get themselves in trouble.
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lol no.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchism
1: a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally
1 : in a literal sense or manner
2 : in effect : virtually —used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible
Yeah, those are definitions when used as a literary term, or an extreme example. You’re not wrong that anarchy can refer to no rules at all, but social contracts and agreements can exist and it still be anarchy just fine.
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Only if you’re an edgy teenage dumbass who just watched A Clockwork Orange…
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usually anarchists advocate for elected or rotational positions for policing.
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The same thing that happens anywhere else? A power struggle between the people who want it and don’t? Are you implying this is unique to anarchism in some way? I don’t see why it would be.
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There is a legal recourse, you’re saying someone with power ignored the law and attempted a coup… do you think coups don’t happen in non anarchist countries? How is this unique to anarchism in any way?
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Give one historical example of this happening to an anarchist commune?
also anarchists have all of those legal frameworks in place as well, this is simply not true and has no historical basis.
In nearly every example I have read about they have been destroyed through military might of an external power, see revolutionary catalonia and the zapatistas as examples. It turns out rich capitalists don’t want anarchism to work, and desperately try to destroy it.