I absolutely hate how everyone in the West internalizes “the rich are destroying the Earth more than I am which absolves me of personal responsibility to be a better human being.” To the point they get pissy at you if you even suggest the possibility that there even exists things they can do today to lessen their burden on the world but at the cost of their convenience and things they enjoy. They’re not rich so in their mind they’re entitled to enjoy everything they can get their hands on and you’re the problem if you point out the harmful effects of their actions. Guess what? The rich are destroying the Earth through your actions that support their businesses. Whenever you buy McDonald’s, drive your car, use AI, buy fast fashion or cosmetics tested on animals, you’re doing their bidding. “It’s not my fault, it’s rich people’s fault” they say as they buy an overpriced drive through burger and eat it while sitting in their car on the side of a freeway that destroyed an entire ecosystem during construction. Where do you think slaughtered animals are going if not to the people deliberately buying meat? People think when the capitalist class is finally overthrown no one will care if they continue to live a capitalist lifestyle? No, after the revolution the laws will most likely be changed to require changes like going vegan and commuting by public transit, not because of commie totalitarianism wanting to control you, but because we will go extinct if we keep living like this. So if you claim to be an anticapitalist, why not start making those changes now?
Seriously, go vegan and stop driving. Bam, carbon footprint cut by more than half. You can do it today without the rich’s approval.
People be spouting “No ethical consumption under capitalism!!” right before defending the most unethical of the options.
I think the people that try to be ethical in their consumption are often unemployed (and autistic). Jobs these days demand 110%, so we need to give -10% to our ethical pursuits.
If things weren’t so stressful would this change? I don’t know.
The hell does autism have to do with this? If you have to be autistic to be ethical then maybe everyone else should take a page out of the autists’ book.
Also, you can be employed while eating plants. The idea that you need meat for energy is a modern fabrication by the meat industry. Look at what the Ancient Greek Olympians ate, it was mostly vegetarian with meat mostly in the festival after the games. Modern mountaineers climbing Mount Everest are told to eat sugar and carbs for energy, not meat. Unless you’re a muckbanger or something what you eat has nothing to do with your job, especially if it’s a computer based job where you should actually be reducing the calories you eat since you sit all day, and in that case we know that carbs are more readily converted to energy for the brain than meat. IDK about you but my appetite has plumetted now that I’m working remotely and don’t leave the house most days (even though my workload has increased), and when I do I get hungry I crave bread not meat.
I said they were “often” autistic, and in brackets. Autistic people tend to have a stronger sense of justice and so are more likely to be vegan (presumably, all the articles I could find to double-check were looking into whether veganism causes autism and I can’t be bothered digging deeper). I myself am autistic and operate on a reduced meat diet and am boycotting multiple entities.
I didn’t mean to say people need meat for energy. What I meant to say (or imply) was that with jobs requiring 110% we don’t have the energy to do anything but go full goblin-mode. It’s not that meat gives us energy, but abstaining from it certainly takes energy.
I agree fully, except it’s far from “everyone” that believes this; a lot of people, especially in the west, are still in denial about climate change and plastic waste. Heck, my own mother thinks that climate change is good because “summers will be longer and crops will have more time to grow”, and it’s a common sentiment among her social group (elderly russians)
Doesn’t change the length of the summer, of course. Climate-appropriate plants need sunlight, not heat. You’ll be able to grow things you couldn’t grow before, but your growing season will still be just as short.
As long as billionares are destroying the atmosphere, it wont matter
“As long as rapists exist, my personal sexual conduct doesn’t matter.”
CONDUCT FUCKING MATTERS. Whether or not you can personally solve the planet’s problems, WHAT YOU DO MATTERS.
Ban looks good on you.
Weird you post this criticism to attack veganism. Food is one of the most decentralized aspects of life. You’re not wrong that a member of the billionaire caste can pump out ten thousand times more CO2 than you, but it can’t actually, physically, eat more animals than you.
Your impact on the lives of animals is the same as Elon Musk’s. The stomach is the great equalizer.
Well vegans cant eat the rich…
Veganism is all about harm reduction
The killing is counterproductive; labour at minimum wage until they repay everything they stole sounds like a better use of resources
It always matters for the victims.
So it’s okay if I punch you because it doesn’t matter as long as billionaires are destroying the world?
You can try
Not what I asked.
But it is what I want
Oh, my bad. I thought we were adults having a rational conversation, but you were just trolling.
It’s always bad faith coping.
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