Is that where lefties are at now - pretending that left wing governments aren’t now actually right wing since they’re acting fascist and authoritarian? 🤣
Liberals pose as leftists in order to define the leftmost limit of acceptable politics in a capitalist society - at best pushing just a few broken-by-design reforms to temporarily take the edge off. Actual leftists want the forces of democracy to overrun capitalism completely and permanently, rather than make futile attempts to appease it as the liberals do. Capitalist governments can only allow real leftists token representation at the most, and usually not even that, as it is imperative the ‘common sense’ be maintained that capitalist relations emerge from nature rather than from constant, feverish maintenance on the part of the propertied classes who stand to benefit.
You aren’t on a corporate platform where you can talk like an american cable news pundit without anyone pointing out how ridiculous you sound.
Actual leftists want the forces of democracy to overrun capitalism completely and permanently,
The right are the ones that want democracy - power to the people, small government, well defined laws and regulations, and fair elections. The left and liberals want communism and authoritarianism. They crave it. They want to be controlled and given their rations, with extreme censorship and no differing views allowed, punishable by death.
You aren’t on a corporate platform where you can talk like an american cable news pundit without anyone pointing out how ridiculous you sound.
You have an american media understanding of what left and right are.
The rest of the world, and everyone who reads books, know that right and left as political terms originated in the period of the French Revolution, in which the forces who wanted to retain the absolute rule of kings sat on the right of the aisle in parliament, and those who wanted rights and rule of law were on the left. They quickly became generalized, with right then meaning the tendency to concentrate power in the incumbent oligarchic class, and left becoming synonymous with the tendency toward democratization. This is how scholarly people the world over use the terms to this day.
You have adopted the corporate media’s usage, wherein right and left become team-sports markers with no permanent grounding in policy. It is a disempowering understanding of the world, which is why billionaires invest so much money in promoting it to the masses. It is one of the forms of guillotine insurance.
If liberals aren’t on the left, where are they?
Conservatives and liberals are both guardians of capitalist power - they are both firmly on the right. They are each funded by an almost identical collection of billionaire and corporate donors. Conservatives are mostly direct and overt about it. Liberals are more sly - their function is absorb and dissipate leftist pressure so that it cannot consolidate into a coherent, independent force. Wearing the skins of the social movements they strangle, the liberals then pin their own crimes on “socialism”, to braying conservative applause. If that’s the spectacle you want to stay lost in, suit yourself. But in that case, I think you’d feel more at home on Reddit.
If you live in a NATO vassal, your media are basically an affiliate of the american media. If you are really convinced you are shielded from that influence, that’s pretty tragic. If you are outside of NATO, you have fewer excuses for what becomes a much more bizarre loyalty to the imperial paradigm of an arbitrary and floating “left” and “right”.
There is every indication that what “communism” and “socialism” mean to you are equally afloat in the vibes. The primary texts are in the public domain and easy to find if you ever want to become capable of arguing a position seriously instead of parroting talking points that were already obsolete 150 years ago.
Is that where lefties are at now - pretending that left wing governments aren’t now actually right wing since they’re acting fascist and authoritarian? 🤣
You are confused.
Liberals pose as leftists in order to define the leftmost limit of acceptable politics in a capitalist society - at best pushing just a few broken-by-design reforms to temporarily take the edge off. Actual leftists want the forces of democracy to overrun capitalism completely and permanently, rather than make futile attempts to appease it as the liberals do. Capitalist governments can only allow real leftists token representation at the most, and usually not even that, as it is imperative the ‘common sense’ be maintained that capitalist relations emerge from nature rather than from constant, feverish maintenance on the part of the propertied classes who stand to benefit.
You aren’t on a corporate platform where you can talk like an american cable news pundit without anyone pointing out how ridiculous you sound.
If liberals aren’t on the left, where are they?
The right are the ones that want democracy - power to the people, small government, well defined laws and regulations, and fair elections. The left and liberals want communism and authoritarianism. They crave it. They want to be controlled and given their rations, with extreme censorship and no differing views allowed, punishable by death.
Amazing.
You have an american media understanding of what left and right are.
The rest of the world, and everyone who reads books, know that right and left as political terms originated in the period of the French Revolution, in which the forces who wanted to retain the absolute rule of kings sat on the right of the aisle in parliament, and those who wanted rights and rule of law were on the left. They quickly became generalized, with right then meaning the tendency to concentrate power in the incumbent oligarchic class, and left becoming synonymous with the tendency toward democratization. This is how scholarly people the world over use the terms to this day.
You have adopted the corporate media’s usage, wherein right and left become team-sports markers with no permanent grounding in policy. It is a disempowering understanding of the world, which is why billionaires invest so much money in promoting it to the masses. It is one of the forms of guillotine insurance.
Conservatives and liberals are both guardians of capitalist power - they are both firmly on the right. They are each funded by an almost identical collection of billionaire and corporate donors. Conservatives are mostly direct and overt about it. Liberals are more sly - their function is absorb and dissipate leftist pressure so that it cannot consolidate into a coherent, independent force. Wearing the skins of the social movements they strangle, the liberals then pin their own crimes on “socialism”, to braying conservative applause. If that’s the spectacle you want to stay lost in, suit yourself. But in that case, I think you’d feel more at home on Reddit.
I definitely don’t, what with not being American and not living in America lol
Let me guess - you think communism and socialism work?
It’s not me that belongs on Reddit lol
If you live in a NATO vassal, your media are basically an affiliate of the american media. If you are really convinced you are shielded from that influence, that’s pretty tragic. If you are outside of NATO, you have fewer excuses for what becomes a much more bizarre loyalty to the imperial paradigm of an arbitrary and floating “left” and “right”.
There is every indication that what “communism” and “socialism” mean to you are equally afloat in the vibes. The primary texts are in the public domain and easy to find if you ever want to become capable of arguing a position seriously instead of parroting talking points that were already obsolete 150 years ago.
Cool so you do think communism works and is the best lol.
Yeah it’s definitely you who belong on reddit.