• oatscoop@midwest.social
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    6 days ago

    I agree with you and would expand that to cover most major religions, particularly the abrahamic ones.

    I also think bigotry is evil because it’s blind hatred of anyone belonging to a group. There are decent enough people that are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Admittedly most don’t closely follow their religion (particularly the fucked up parts) – but they still identify as such.

    There’s a difference between attacking a belief system and attacking huge, diverse groups of people. Somehow I don’t think Ultra Nuclear’s intent was the former.

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      The big issue that I have is that muslims and Western leftists ALWAYS try to conflate criticism of islam with bigotry against muslims no matter how wrong that is. It doesn’t matter to them how valid, well thought, and factual criticism is, the label of bigotry is more often than not used as tool to censor criticism of islam rather than call out genuine bigotry. I already have people replying to me doing exactly this.

      I also find it annoying just how far leftist in the West are willing to deepthroat the boot of islam, even it explicitly against them and everything they stand for. They can’t resist but defend it for whatever reason, and if they don’t defend it, then try to downplay it by trying to bring in other religions into the conversation. You’re not allowed to criticize islam on it own by its own merits, you will ALWAYS get people that try to whatabout with Christainity and Judaism, as if that changes anything about islam. Other religions have their shitty elements and those should be discussed under posts about them, but when we have posts about islam, we need to criticize it, by itself, for what it is.

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        I know I’m late in replying (life) but I’d say it’s because most people’s experience of hearing criticism of Islam in the west is it coming from assholes of the white supremacist variety. They are overwhelmingly the loudest and most proliferate critics of Islam, so people start associating the two – and unfortunately that assumption is correct more times than not.

        It’s a given considering most western leftists are fairly ignorant on the topic of Islam and have a tendency to diametrically oppose everything bigots claim. Now throw in assholes that will exploit those facts to push their fucked up beliefs.