Around half of the population STILL doesn’t think Climate Change is going to personally effect them.


For those who are five to twenty five, “GenZ”, the Climate Crisis is going to be the rest of their lives. Their “best years”, when the world wasn’t dying, are already behind them. Ahead lies only the ruin that will be the rest of their lives.


BEST CASE — MAINSTREAM 543ppmCO2e — Right Now, here today.

WORST CASE — ALARMIST and PALEOCLIMATE FINDINGS 616.2ppmCO2e — Right Now, here today.

2XCO2 has effectively been breached. Mostly due to changes in the albedo, mostly due to “cloud diminishment”.

This means 4c btw. It’s fucking over. The “best years” most of which I can barely remember because I was busy getting disfigured from puberty. Life is such dogshit

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    We’re only dealing with the extra warming from the carbon output 90s and 00s right now and even if we stop, right now, there’s another 20 years of warming to go.

    The situation is dire and the future is bleak but the capacity for people to survive, mitigate, adapt is still there. There are things that can be done now, not just long shots that are still feasible like BECCS. We haven’t redirected the awesome productive ability of the industrialized global world towards this because we don’t have power and the people who have power to direct production have their hands increasingly off the controls and the hands of Capitalism itself is more or less minding the proverbial till. In the face of this naked Capitalism transubstantianing the world into an increasingly literal hellscape - we can win this fight, we must win this fight and we will win this fight.

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      it’s capitalism or our species at this point, because if this neoliberal global industrial autonomous slaughterhouse factory doesn’t get rearranged into a different mode of production the biosphere will become FUBAR

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      the capacity for people to survive, mitigate, adapt is still there.

      No not really. Not at 4c+. Not where we are headed.

      There are things that can be done now

      Stopping emissions. China plans to do this by 2060. That and further geo engineering.

      we will win this fight.

      We’ve already lost.

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        We’ve already lost.

        I think this is a point that should be emphasized as part of an agroecological education when organizing and raising consciousness. In order to understand the gravity of the situation it is important to learn that everything is so much worse than even the average tree hugger would think

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      Yeah humanity will survive. Its the form it will survive in that is bleak. There are things worse than death . these kids deserve better sadness-abysmal

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        Kinda doubt it survives long (hundreds of years+) term tbh. The earth has already been pillaged and a huge amount of what’s left is going to die from climate change.

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          ya if global industrial civilization actually falls apart we have basically zero chance of putting it back together because the biosphere will be kaput. so we either try to land the plane or just enjoy the nosedive (which we are currently in)

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          It will be a slow painful death. Idk how long humans think we can continue at this rate of things but definitely not long

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    i used to be deeply misanthropic about this whole situation but have in the not so distant past managed to rearrange those feelings.

    i love xiaohongshu’s posts around here because they contextualize and ground my hope that China emerges as a beacon of development for what we are facing. i am by no means a techno-optimist however (i am clinically pessimistic) but the only way out is through.

    i mean ideally we do some kind of green de-growth but that requires a global alignment that i do not see as realistic, which makes me doom because can we really escape this if we’re all just competing states collectively increasing global GDP for the sake of line go up?

    anyway everything is so utterly fucked but after years i think i have finally fallen through what i thought was the bottom to find myself suspended in so goo in a formless void

    this ted talk was sponsored by agro-ecology and your local coalition of antifa soil builders

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    Welp, in the meantime I can still go outside and not be burned or cough from intense air pollution, might as well live and fight for ecosocialism… ugh. Really hope China like invades the U.S. and forces socialism on it lol

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    Mainstream Climate Models are saying +3°C of warming over baseline in about 60 years (2085) at a Rate of Warming of +0.27°C per decade. They also are saying that warming will effectively halt when Net-Zero is reached AND that CH4 levels will rapidly fall as well.


    Alarmist Climate Models are saying +3°C of warming over baseline in about 40 years (2065) at a Rate of Warming of +0.36°C per decade. They don’t see that as an endpoint. Ultimately they think as much as +12°C of warming may be “in the pipeline”. Although their models indicate much of this warming will happen gradually over several thousand years, up to +5°C of warming is possible by 2100.

    Standard and Poors Global think there is a 50% chance of +2.3°C by 2040, implying +3°C by 2055.