This is a mistake, argues NPC member and Zohran field organizer @wellstonism
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On October 14, NYC-DSA will hold a general meeting, of sorts, open to the membership of the chapter. It will hear two proposals written by our Steering Committee— to establish a local dues drive and to define our chapter’s orientation to the Zohran administration. Members will not be allowed to submit amendments, submit alternative proposals for consideration, or otherwise intervene democratically through parliamentary procedure. The vote, which members will be sent over email after the meeting, will be non-binding. As a result of such a shoddy process, it comes as no surprise that the proposals themselves are politically lacking. I encourage members to attend the meeting and vote NO on both proposals.
While the dues drive proposal has its own serious issues, the point of this piece will be to discuss the latter—“NYC-DSA’s Orientation Toward a Potential Mamdani Administration.” In brief, it seeks to orient the chapter’s activity and political program towards the “Affordability Agenda”—freezing the rent, no-cost childcare, fast and free buses—championed by Zohran Mamdani’s mayoral campaign. Strikingly, however, it does not mention immigration or ICE, the role of the cops and other undemocratic institutions, the struggle for Palestinian liberation, or the prospect of resisting a federal Trump crackdown on New York City. By ignoring many of the most pressing venues of mass politics, this resolution sets NYC-DSA up to fail. It erodes our ability to make genuine political interventions and ultimately reveals the weakness of our political organization even as we face unprecedented growth.
But there is another concerning issue with this proposal. Before any positive vision is introduced, the authors take pains to denounce any attempt to “demand accountability” from one of the most powerful executives in America:
“If we succeed in electing Zohran Mamdani, our priority will not be policing the mayor’s lapses and demanding accountability—orientations the left has adopted in moments of decline and marginality. Our priority in campaigning for a democratic socialist mayor is to expand working-class power and win material improvements in the lives of the working class. Our members must put first the project of moving and shaping a new political landscape, before the task of critique.” [Emphasis in the original.]
Ignoring the fact that this resolution does little to advance a “project of moving and shaping a new political landscape,” this is, on its face, patently absurd. For one, there is nothing New Yorkers love more than hating the mayor, no matter who occupies the office. Cynicism and frustration will be difficult to overcome as capital asserts itself against Mamdani. Surely, he will stumble in this uphill battle, perhaps gravely. Our goal as socialists should be to put politics and worker self-organization first, not pin our hopes and dreams to a high approval rating. Simply stating that we will not seek to criticize, without providing a roadmap for when and where we should, is a transparently bizarre way of doing politics.
Hilarious that NYCDSA would consider codifying its subservient liberalism. Bunch of sellouts. Not even socdems, just liberals waving red flags.
The slogan of every NATO leftist
Fragile unwillingness to do self reflection is a giant red flag in a partner but I guess it’s fine when DSA adopts that stance
Yeah, the NYC DSA left is scrambling right now to oppose this shit
Well good on them then
we doin socdemcent, have a problem tankie?

Love how you can still tell this is James posting despite the pixels making it illegible
our priority will not be policing the mayor’s lapses and demanding accountability
Then you won’t have any influence you dumb fucks, deliberately making yourselves easy to ignore is a hell of strategy, some intern at Langley definitely isn’t smiling a shit-eating grin reading that
orientations the left has adopted in moments of decline and marginality
In moments when the left was powerful, it never critiqued or held politicians accountable, yeah this is totally how history happened and not a boldfaced inversion of the actual record
“Be nice and well behaved for the libs” is absolutely a NEW strategy that has never been tried before
Our members must put first the project of moving and shaping a new political landscape
And we’ll shape this political landscape without the concepts of critique and accountability, why are you laughing?
Shout out to Sid, I met them at convention this year.
For the right flank of DSA, it appears DemCent is unacceptable authoritarianism, except when it comes to criticizing our politicians’ liberalism, Zionism, or anti-communist claptrap, then it seems party discipline is everything. It’s been a frustrating few weeks.
I guess Zohran’s campaign wasn’t launched as a DSA-run campaign? It seems like the DSA doesn’t have any direct control over his messaging even if he is very DSA-affiliated.
From my understanding there is a disconnect from most of dsa and nyc dsa with a smaller disconnect between parts of NYC dsa and it’s leadership.
But national seems to have very little, if any power over his campaign. Unless he toes too far into the anti-zionism resolution red line but I didn’t see any practical implementation for that so.
I’ll try @ some people that probably know way more though
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lmao here I am
My understanding is that NYC DSA is captured by “right” caucuses in DSA. Here’s where I hand it to them - they are by far the largest chapter and are poised to win mayor of New York. The organization is impressive. However, I would say most DSA members, including many in NYC, dislike their style of work there. They just now held a general chapter meeting, something that every other DSA chapter does regularly, and during that meeting members were allowed to vote to advise leadership to adopt resolutions written by said leadership.
I could write a much longer thing about my beef with the main caucus behind this kind of buffoonery, but suffice to say we have different visions of the type of org DSA should be.
For Zohran specifically, because of the way DSA is structured, national basically does not have control over his campaign. Zohran’s campaign, at the behest of NYC DSA, did not ever apply for a national endorsement. Structurally, this whole thing is NYC DSA’s ball game, even if national is happy to put Zohran’s face on literature and such.
I wonder how many DSA people are actually part of Zohran’s campaign? And do those people support the kind of capitulation he is doing to earn the favor of the ruling class? And does the general NYC DSA membership oppose that but have no input, or what? I remember that Zohran brought a bunch of “establishment” ghouls onto his campaign and that’s kinda when it was clear the campaign was kinda fishy.
national is happy to put Zohran’s face on literature and such.
This could not go wrong in any way.
This is a very typical problem for NYC DSA where their leadership is captured by the Groundwork caucus (same caucus that tried to get the org to
endorse kamalaendorse voting against trump tactically. They do extensive list work of otherwise inactive members to stay in power and when that doesnt work they change the rules to favor them. There was one year that they created a bespoke alternative to Scottish Single Transferable Vote that was similar except happened to have much better outcomes for their candidates.They understand the role of DSA to be as ground-game for anyone who is left of the democratic party and charismatic (AOC, Mamdani) and as a result they exercise 0 control over candidates even as they hire democrat consultants and start kissing NYPD boots.
Looks like while Mamdani is of DSA, I was mistaken and he is not DSA cadre. The sooner NYC DSA splits from the org creating a right wing independent org and a left wing DSA chapter, the better IMO
That makes sense. They would be much better off removing the groundwork people from leadership than splitting though.
My understanding is that using the recent leftward shift to call a special election and defeat them is the plan
Groundwork is however already laying, well, groundwork for a split by keeping their own lists and creating an option for people to be members of NYC DSA without belonging to the national org
Isn’t PSL active in the city? I assume if there’s a split the local DSA will become more moderate while PSL takes on left leavers.
PSL’s vetting system is too strict to take on all the DSA left. Strict MLs in DSA are kind of a bay area thing. The left will probably just remain in DSA while the right will leave.
creating an option for people to be members of NYC DSA without belonging to the national org
Now that ought be considered very controversial nationally. That’s basically preemptive splitting.
It’s treason!!!
Seattle DSA will send cadres to put down this act of rebellion!
Looking at the date of the document, are they just now deciding where to orient themselves in regards to Mamdani? The doc date is Oct 2. They’re having a non-binding vote on Oct 14 (yesterday) when the mayoral election is Nov 4?











