• cardfire@sh.itjust.works
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      19 hours ago

      I literally named two different phone models, and I think dismissing that people are often bound to what handsets are available to them is … Well, honestly just cruel.

      Most of us don’t have the cash to throw down for phones all the time and we need scalability to protect ALL of us, not just those of us cash flush.

      My fingers are still crossed folks figure out some containerization or virtualization solution between now and the Goo-lag.

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        It’s better to work a few hours to buy a good device than waste thousands searching for a fantasy solution. Phones are bought rarely, not ‘all the time’. If you can’t afford basics, fix the money problem first, privacy can wait.

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          8 hours ago

          “Job” is a precious commodity for many of us.

          You understand that people who live in the developing world, and have hostile governments that will weaponize Meta/Google’s data and telemetry against them, ALSO deserve privacy and liberty with their devices too, right?

          This is why I’m saying that being prescriptive about what hardware we use is not the end game.

          It’s going to have to come from the software platform.

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            6 hours ago

            Do you live in the developing world? Is your government banning this phone? How can we help others if we can’t help ourselves?

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              I live in a country where the government is now weaponizing the mobile data on our phones to track us, and assault us. They have begun kidnapping citizens without due process and incarcerating people with legal status, without even filling charges.

              These state agencies are buying tech that let’s them follow people around by their phones, and the leading mobile platform companies are openly complicit with governments that assault their people.

              When you ask if I’m living in the developing world, I travel international a lot but my home country is experiencing rapid decline, and they have banned several categories of phone manufacturers, most famously Huawei consumer products. Ironically, because that company is suspected of doing the same things that Google is doing (granting access to back-end services and data to government entities).

              So it’s really not about any one device.

              The people affected by this state violence (a ) deserve privacy just like anyone else, and (b ) depend on their mobile devices for every part of their daily life just like everybody else.

              How are you going to help them, when you can’t even help yourself?

              Nobody can “help themselves” with a technology platform. It taken cooperation with others, to make systemic changes.

              Again, I personally will be fine. I can buy a Chinaphone. Or I can fund a Linux project phone for myself. Or, gods help me, I could buy an iPhone.

              But what about the people on the other end of the line? What good is one secure walkie talkie?

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                  7 hours ago

                  I’ve responded, repeatedly, and at length to you. I’ve treated you like you want to be a responsible member of community. I’ve tried to treat you with benefit of the doubt.

                  You have generally replied with pithy, two-liner insults and red herrings. I feel comfortable now just disregarding you.

                  I hope someday you find your way to kindness.

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                    If your rejecting solutions without offering one, you’re not entitled to an thesis length reply. Anyone can write a long comment with ChatGPT.