• Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com
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    Socialism isn’t imaginary, it’s materialist. The whole importance of Marx and Engels is that they defended scientific socialism as opposed to Utopian socialism. I don’t want utopias, I want real working policy.

    Wages will always have an upper limit by total productivity, but they don’t need to be driven down by a labour reserve pool of unemployed people and/or poor peasants willing to migrate and become industrial proletariat. Just guarantee employment to everyone and salaries will go up dramatically. But guaranteeing employment to everyone has only been achieved by socialist revolutions.

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      2 days ago

      So you’re anti-immigration, then? Isn’t that so much more of a “fuck you” to those poor farm workers than my stance was?

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        I’m not anti-immigrstion because I’m not nationalist. Immigration does drive the wages down on the place where immigrants arrive, but it drives them up on the area of origin in the same way.