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    7 days ago

    You live in USSR year 1934

    Not communism or socialism.
    Congrats, you’ve been brainwashed.

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      7 days ago

      It seemed pretty communist and socialist for people living it. And it was derived from something that is pretty commonly considered communist and socialist.

      Anyway, it doesn’t work in your favor to highlight that the biggest examples of, good or bad, practical application of your ideas are actually not that. Means that there are close to no examples.

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        7 days ago

        the biggest examples of, good or bad, practical application of your ideas

        All they ever were, were techniques to use ideas that appeal to the masses in order to bait-and-switch them into voting would-become dictators to power, but do carry on with your head in the sand.
        Bye :)

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          6 days ago

          You haven’t read the relevant things, like Stalin’s short history of RCP(b) where he explains what he thought (by the way, that’s the real starting point in literature of Maoist ideology, Castro regime and so on ; Marx and Engels those people didn’t like, and even Lenin was too wordy), and such.

          It’s the other way around, Soviet ideology, Stalin included, till at least 70s was more thoroughly Marxist than anything else really implemented.

          It’s just that most of the western leftist groups don’t like how it went, so they pretend USSR was something alien. With the notable exception of communists in France.

          Also I don’t think fair pluralism is part of Marxism in any way. It’s similar to modern leftist perception of the USSR.