If a cold country is asking for our gas, especially to eliminate dependence on a hostile foreign regime, that is definitely a worldwide improvement and harm reduction for millions of people. Its wishful thinking to say ‘eliminate it’ but thats not going to happen overnight, if ever, in some countries. If we have the resource NOW and they need it NOW, then its in their best interest AND ours to sell it to them now.
Did you miss the part where I said we don’t get enough return for it to build infrastructure for it. We already bought a pipeline for $4B dollars that we didn’t want. They need it now, we need it tomorrow.
Who is the “we” that didn’t want the Trans Mountain pipeline? Would that be the Gov of Canada that gets about 1.25 billion in revenue this year from the pipeline? Would that be the 15,000 well paid employees that built and run the pipeline? Would that be the AB and BC gov’s who gain a lot of income tax from those employees? Would that be the people in China, South Korea, Japan, and India who buy most of that oil so they don’t have to burn coal to power their industries and don’t have to rely on shady countries like Russia? Or is it Quebecers who benefit from 14 BILLION a year in transfer payments, the vast majority of which comes from Alberta’s oil revenues? Which “we” are we referring to?
The government, who had to bail out a private investor who got halfway done and walked. Why did they walk? Probably due to the protesting and fighting they had to do to get that pipeline in the ground? But yeah, it was sooo wanted. Yeah, we make money. How much would we be making if it was all ours? I betcha it would be a lot more, hey? That’s where my real argument was centered. We get a pittance of the actual value of the resource because we sell off our resources instead of taking them to market.
You’ll notice in these latest talks about pipelines that the gov often mentions indigenous groups as they are the primary protesters for any new pipeline. But it really didnt make sense for them to protest (and do massive vandalism of heavy equipment at one location) when the TransMountain was just a twinning of a pipeline that was already there since 1953. There will always be some bands that protest, but the majority are in favor because they also gain employment and royalties.
It was fascinating to listen to a CBC Special a few years back when they traveled across western Canada to ask people how they felt about the pipeline that was running under their property. The majority of people they spoke to, rural or urban, had NO idea there was even a pipeline underneath them. If they dont even know it, it obviously is not impacting their lives in any negative way. But people gotta protest anyway.
If a cold country is asking for our gas, especially to eliminate dependence on a hostile foreign regime, that is definitely a worldwide improvement and harm reduction for millions of people. Its wishful thinking to say ‘eliminate it’ but thats not going to happen overnight, if ever, in some countries. If we have the resource NOW and they need it NOW, then its in their best interest AND ours to sell it to them now.
Did you miss the part where I said we don’t get enough return for it to build infrastructure for it. We already bought a pipeline for $4B dollars that we didn’t want. They need it now, we need it tomorrow.
Who is the “we” that didn’t want the Trans Mountain pipeline? Would that be the Gov of Canada that gets about 1.25 billion in revenue this year from the pipeline? Would that be the 15,000 well paid employees that built and run the pipeline? Would that be the AB and BC gov’s who gain a lot of income tax from those employees? Would that be the people in China, South Korea, Japan, and India who buy most of that oil so they don’t have to burn coal to power their industries and don’t have to rely on shady countries like Russia? Or is it Quebecers who benefit from 14 BILLION a year in transfer payments, the vast majority of which comes from Alberta’s oil revenues? Which “we” are we referring to?
The government, who had to bail out a private investor who got halfway done and walked. Why did they walk? Probably due to the protesting and fighting they had to do to get that pipeline in the ground? But yeah, it was sooo wanted. Yeah, we make money. How much would we be making if it was all ours? I betcha it would be a lot more, hey? That’s where my real argument was centered. We get a pittance of the actual value of the resource because we sell off our resources instead of taking them to market.
You’ll notice in these latest talks about pipelines that the gov often mentions indigenous groups as they are the primary protesters for any new pipeline. But it really didnt make sense for them to protest (and do massive vandalism of heavy equipment at one location) when the TransMountain was just a twinning of a pipeline that was already there since 1953. There will always be some bands that protest, but the majority are in favor because they also gain employment and royalties.
It was fascinating to listen to a CBC Special a few years back when they traveled across western Canada to ask people how they felt about the pipeline that was running under their property. The majority of people they spoke to, rural or urban, had NO idea there was even a pipeline underneath them. If they dont even know it, it obviously is not impacting their lives in any negative way. But people gotta protest anyway.