it is ridiculous to assume fraud because the dprk won an athletic competition.
And the dprk deserve “support” in the sense that our mindless aggression and distrust of them is grossly unfair.
Mate does it occur to you that quite literally everything you know about the dprk is U.S fed propaganda designed to completely dehumanize and otherize an entire country of normal people?
I am just surprised that people here support North Korea’s government.
You’re probably approaching this from the wrong angle; we would all here be entirely ready to be critical of any shortcomings in the DPRK AFTER they’re allowed to live and prosper; they’re under sanctions and literally by UN law no one can hire DPRK workers, hence no possibility of work visas. They’re being choked by and support for the people means supporting the government. American war criminals who slaughter the civilian populations around the world understand this extremely well, as Curtis LeMay (decorated airforce war criminal general) said: If you are at war with the government of a people, then you are at war with the people. When America invaded Iraq, Saddam literally distributed weapons to the people so they could fight back during the invasion; a similar thing is happening today in Venezuela with Maduro arming and training his people.
Ask yourself this: As much as we all hate Trump, if we were going through an existential war that killed 20% of the population and leveled the entire country, and prevented anything from coming in to help rebuild (so a cutting off of oil, manufacturing and production equipment, tools, etc etc), and then you were placed under heavy sanctions and people are being starved to death, with the perpetrators doing military drills to simulate invading you, and every litte thing, EVERY LITTLE THING, you do that seems positive is immediately maligned as government propaganda or a tool of control (for example when the DPRK opened up a water park and everyone was saying the people in it were forced to go or forced to pretend to be happy), and any attempt at diplomacy or peace with the perpetrators is used as a weapon against us to potentially invade again and finish the job, again, any attempt at diplomacy or peace with the perpetrators is used as a weapon against us to potentially invade again and finish the job, do you think NOW is the time to be critical of the government? Imagine if everything the people knew about us was nothing but propaganda manufactured either by the perpetrators, by a hostile neighbor that serves the interests of the perpetrator, or news set up by the intelligence agency of the perpetrator; nobody hears a word from us because of this, and if you try to tell people they just say you’re propaganda by the government.
Let them first have a fair chance like literally most countries around the world and then we can be critical; currently we’re watching a country struggle (and managing decently) to stay alive and you think we’re not going to support them? Not supporting the DPRK’s government at this time IS support of harm to their people by our government.
Curtis LeMay’s quote so you can understand:
“There are no innocent civilians. It is their government and you are fighting a people, you are not trying to fight an armed force anymore. So it doesn’t bother me so much to be killing the so-called innocent bystanders.”
A more recent example of what opposing the local government looks like is the Iraq war; our government killed hundreds of thousands of people, maybe a million, most of whom were civilians. If you oppose the local government in a time of existential conflict, whether it was your intention or not, you are picking the other side in the conflict.
EDIT: For further context consider Iran; after Israel’s bombings, many of the anti-government people decided to support their government; and why? Israel ONLY bombed five hospitals and several apartment buildings; in the Korean war, our government literally razed the country to the ground; another quote from Curtis:
“We went over there and fought the war and eventually burned down every town in North Korea anyway, some way or another… Over a period of three years or so, we killed off, what, 20 percent of the population?”
People were literally hiding in caves; that was literally their lives during that ‘war’. I promise you, whatever the people of the DPRK may think of their own government, I promise you, they think worse of ours and would stand by their government against us. You AREN’T standing with the people of the DPRK if you don’t stand with their government.
It surprises me that people still take western state department anti Communist propaganda as absolute fact and refuse to even consider the possibility that capitalist imperialist governments have an incentive to lie
Whether or not we “Support” the DPRKs internal policies is ultimately irrelevant. The only thing I have the slightest voice in is how my own government and the people around me act towards the DPRK, and there I believe it is important for us to point out that the DPRK are not the aggressors and that basically everything said about them is ridiculous.
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it is ridiculous to assume fraud because the dprk won an athletic competition. And the dprk deserve “support” in the sense that our mindless aggression and distrust of them is grossly unfair.
I am not saying the NK team cheated or anything. I am just surprised that people here support North Korea’s government.
This I fully agree with.
Mate does it occur to you that quite literally everything you know about the dprk is U.S fed propaganda designed to completely dehumanize and otherize an entire country of normal people?
I live in a ‘neutral’ country. I think our government actually has okay relations with North Korea.
I’d be surprised if your nation’s media isn’t infested with US empire enabling propagandists. It’s kind of our specialty.
You’re probably approaching this from the wrong angle; we would all here be entirely ready to be critical of any shortcomings in the DPRK AFTER they’re allowed to live and prosper; they’re under sanctions and literally by UN law no one can hire DPRK workers, hence no possibility of work visas. They’re being choked by
and support for the people means supporting the government. American war criminals who slaughter the civilian populations around the world understand this extremely well, as Curtis LeMay (decorated airforce war criminal general) said: If you are at war with the government of a people, then you are at war with the people. When America invaded Iraq, Saddam literally distributed weapons to the people so they could fight back during the invasion; a similar thing is happening today in Venezuela with Maduro arming and training his people.
Ask yourself this: As much as we all hate Trump, if we were going through an existential war that killed 20% of the population and leveled the entire country, and prevented anything from coming in to help rebuild (so a cutting off of oil, manufacturing and production equipment, tools, etc etc), and then you were placed under heavy sanctions and people are being starved to death, with the perpetrators doing military drills to simulate invading you, and every litte thing, EVERY LITTLE THING, you do that seems positive is immediately maligned as government propaganda or a tool of control (for example when the DPRK opened up a water park and everyone was saying the people in it were forced to go or forced to pretend to be happy), and any attempt at diplomacy or peace with the perpetrators is used as a weapon against us to potentially invade again and finish the job, again, any attempt at diplomacy or peace with the perpetrators is used as a weapon against us to potentially invade again and finish the job, do you think NOW is the time to be critical of the government? Imagine if everything the people knew about us was nothing but propaganda manufactured either by the perpetrators, by a hostile neighbor that serves the interests of the perpetrator, or news set up by the intelligence agency of the perpetrator; nobody hears a word from us because of this, and if you try to tell people they just say you’re propaganda by the government.
Let them first have a fair chance like literally most countries around the world and then we can be critical; currently we’re watching a country struggle (and managing decently) to stay alive and you think we’re not going to support them? Not supporting the DPRK’s government at this time IS support of harm to their people by our government.
Curtis LeMay’s quote so you can understand:
“There are no innocent civilians. It is their government and you are fighting a people, you are not trying to fight an armed force anymore. So it doesn’t bother me so much to be killing the so-called innocent bystanders.”
A more recent example of what opposing the local government looks like is the Iraq war; our government killed hundreds of thousands of people, maybe a million, most of whom were civilians. If you oppose the local government in a time of existential conflict, whether it was your intention or not, you are picking the other side in the conflict.
EDIT: For further context consider Iran; after Israel’s bombings, many of the anti-government people decided to support their government; and why? Israel ONLY bombed five hospitals and several apartment buildings; in the Korean war, our government literally razed the country to the ground; another quote from Curtis:
“We went over there and fought the war and eventually burned down every town in North Korea anyway, some way or another… Over a period of three years or so, we killed off, what, 20 percent of the population?”
People were literally hiding in caves; that was literally their lives during that ‘war’. I promise you, whatever the people of the DPRK may think of their own government, I promise you, they think worse of ours and would stand by their government against us. You AREN’T standing with the people of the DPRK if you don’t stand with their government.
I’m not from the US, but I get your point. I read about the bombings and embargo just now.
It surprises me that people still take western state department anti Communist propaganda as absolute fact and refuse to even consider the possibility that capitalist imperialist governments have an incentive to lie
Whether or not we “Support” the DPRKs internal policies is ultimately irrelevant. The only thing I have the slightest voice in is how my own government and the people around me act towards the DPRK, and there I believe it is important for us to point out that the DPRK are not the aggressors and that basically everything said about them is ridiculous.