• shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
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    1. al-Qarawiyyin was started as a mosque-madrasa complex.

    2. Science and spirituality were intricately entwined during this era. As an example, Dharmic concepts of sunya led to the conceptualization of zero and its use in mathematical operations which is foundational to many subsequent scientific advancements and necessary to our communication through this platform.

    3. Part of what sets al-Qarawiyyin apart is that it offered degrees or certificates of scholarly achievement before other institutions.

    4. This is why UNESCO’s World Heritage description of the Fez Medina explicitly calls al‑Qarawiyyin “the oldest university in the world,” and Guinness lists it as the “oldest existing, continually operating higher‑learning institution”.

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      Nah I think OP is right. Googling around the story seems mostly made up for bragging points. It also started as religious school not sciences 100% and probably did more harm than good for women’s rights considering Morocco is at the very fucking bottom (137th).

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        Interesting that googling would take precedence over UNESCO or Guinness in a science community of all places. Guinness particularly is known to have rigorous quality standards.

        I’m going to trust actual organizations with institutional standards over a Google search. That’s just me though. Other readers can draw their own conclusions.

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          I trust UNESCO, but isn’t Guinness basically pay-to-play, like if I got together with my entire city and we baked the world’s largest pizza, verified by a number of neutral third parties but I don’t pay the $$$ to bring the Guinness team, according to them it doesn’t count?