• RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip
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    Infinite growth is not sustainable and will lead to ruin fast.

    Planned obsolesence lead to huge waste of finite resources.

    Shitty wealth distribution, Billionares are not compatible with a functioning society.

    Capitalism needs to come along with heavy regulation and anti-corruption messures.

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      Under capitalism, capital will always accumulate into the hands of the shareholders. Those with the capital will always find a way to influence politicians into deregulating, no matter how many anti-corruption measures you put in place. We’ve seen this happen over and over for as long as capitalism has existed.

      We need a fundamental change in the system that prevents capital from accumulating. That change would be socialism, where the workers collectively own the means of production, rather than it being owned privately by the shareholders.

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        That change would be socialism, where the workers workers’ self-appointed representatives own the means of production, rather than it being owned privately by the shareholders.

        We’ve been down this road. We know where it ends.

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          If you would stop bending my words for a moment, you would realize that I’m advocating for direct ownership by the workers, not some phony representative democracy. Any system with hierarchies of decision-making power, even supposedly self-appointed ones, will always corrupt.

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        There are other ’non-nightmare–extinction-shit-show’ options than just the one, but its certainly better than our chosen path, that you¹ are choosing every moment you dont act, of nightmare extinction shit show.

        ¹the reader, that’s you.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Infinite growth is not sustainable and will lead to ruin fast.

      infinite growth is not sustainable in a finite space, but if you develop spaceflight, you have literally infinite space available, so the argument falls flat.

      i just wanted to add that addition. it’s actually why spaceflight is pushed forward in america, because it enables growth without destroying the planet at the same time.

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        23 hours ago

        While the universe may be close to infinite, the number of habitable (or reasonably terraformable) planets we can get to is a far smaller number.

        A number statistically similar to zero. (assuming travel times counted in less than a human livespan)