• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    Sanders is a social democrat, ie capitalist but a supporter of enlargening safety nets, not a socialist. Mamdani claims to be more of a reformist socialist than a social democrat, but that remains to be seen. You are correct, support for socialism and communism is rising in the US, but the way you frame it is wrong.

    “Authoritarianism” is a buzzword. It doesn’t really mean anything when you hide from class analysis. Socialist countries wield authority against the capitalist class, landlords, fascists, etc, while capitalist countries wield authority against the working classes. There isn’t some arbitrary scale of “libertarianism to communism” where the more radical you get the more the state acts. The citizens of the US Empire aren’t especially independent, and the system isn’t lopsided due to electoral habits, but due to systemic structures designed to perpetuate capitalism and imperialism.

    The US is authoritarian against the working classes, and that’s by design. The opposition to socialism and communism from older generations and liberals is more a product of the Red Scare and cultural hegemony of the bourgeoisie than anything else, alongside class interests benefiting from imperialism.

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      Yes I agree that these guys are not fully socialist and what they can accomplish is limited. The more interesting point is first how the capatalists loose their shit over it on one hand and on the other I do not think socialist as an attribute is considered negative these days in general.

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        Sure, I agree with both of those. Capital hates restriction unless it is used in its own favor, and socialism in general, both the reformist type of the DSA and the Marxist type found in countries like Cuba, the PRC, Vietnam, etc are rising.