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badbrainstorm@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes

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The world’s largest democracy is collapsing before our eyes

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Narendra Modi’s war on India’s democracy, explained.
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    It’s as if western style liberal democracy is an inherently unstable political system.

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      deleted by creator

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        Just stating basic facts bro.

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          Totalitarians in either China or India are bad.

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            People in China say it’s a democratic country that represents their interests, but I’m sure a western chauvinist who’s never been to China knows a lot better than people living there.

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      As compared to?

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        Compared to China, Cuba, and Vietnam.

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          I’ll take “unstable” over “authoritarian” thanks.

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            Adorable that you think west isn’t authoritarian. Every government is fundamentally authoritarian because the government has the monopoly on violence, that’s where its authority comes from. And when people in western countries don’t behave the governments unleash their security forces on them as they did during George Floyd protests in US and they’re doing in France right now.

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          China does keep it’s slaves in line more… and their recent pushes for global imperial authority have had a lot of success.

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            It’s always amazing to see the wild fantasies westies believe about other countries.

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              No, I mean it, they really have taken the models of the British Empire and the American Empires and expanded them in a way neither at their heights could ever justify nor imagine. Surveillance system sales to authoritarian governments? Selling surveillance in other countries?! Like the CIA look like idiots spending money to get surveillance in other countries on that one. Plus they get to support the dictators keeping the peasants sending raw resources to China!

              Purposely loaning money to countries with bad credit histories for leverage to get them to build ports for the Chinese empire’s trade network?! Britten spent so much time and money fighting wars, and colonizing just to be our shined on that.

              And let’s not even get to started on the levels of control business have over workers there. The US robber barons use the State here looks like child’s play to the anti-union, anti-solidarity work done by the CCP. A giant union ran by the largest capitalist in the country? With authorities able to crack down on grassroots organizing on the opposite side, and the ability to send slaves from regions in need of “reeducation” all around the country. Makes the US look practically socialist on some fronts (we aren’t and have a good way to go).

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                Literally every word of that is a falsehood.

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                  They aren’t loaning out money to have ports built? They don’t have a state run union? Their government isn’t filled with some of their richest? They don’t have a program reducate certain peoples that includes shipping them accross the country? Like come on, some of these are just established public facts that even the CCP doesn’t deny.

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                    They aren’t loaning out money to have ports built?

                    The myth of Chinese debt trap has been thoroughly debunked, just a few examples

                    • In Dec 2021, BBC Interviewed Dr. Deborah Bräutigam About the Debt-Trap Story in Africa. BBC Then Made It Look Like She Agreed With Them During the Broadcast. Corrections Were (Obscurely) Published Eight Months Later in July 2022 But Without Any Change to the Broadcast. https://archive.is/e0BYg
                    • Evo on why China’s not an empire https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1419655886725865472
                    • Chinese Investment In Africa Has Had ‘Significant And Persistently Positive’ Long-Term Effects Despite Controversy https://www.eurasiareview.com/01022021-chinese-investment-in-africa-has-had-significant-and-persistently-positive-long-term-effects-despite-controversy/
                    • study on Chinese investments https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3745021
                    • The Atlantic found no debt trap https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/02/china-debt-trap-diplomacy/617953/
                    • China and Africa: Ethiopia case study debunks investment myths https://theconversation.com/china-and-africa-ethiopia-case-study-debunks-investment-myths-177098

                    Their government isn’t filled with some of their richest?

                    It’s demonstrably not. The government is predominantly filled with working class people

                    • http://www.chinatoday.com/org/cpc/
                    • https://news.cgtn.com/event/2021/who-runs-the-cpc/index.html
                    • https://news.cgtn.com/event/2019/whorunschina/index.html

                    They don’t have a program reducate certain peoples that includes shipping them accross the country?

                    A weird framing for programs to provide people with jobs and education.

                    Like come on, some of these are just established public facts that even the CCP doesn’t deny.

                    As I said, every single claim you made is disinformation. Also, no idea what CCP is. It’s called the Communist Party of China, CPC. The fact that you can’t even get that straight says volumes.

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