Say “aye” or yes" if you are in favour defederation.
Say “nay” or “no” if you are against defederation.
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Yes.
I’m sensitive to racial issues but the way they go about discussing them devalues them in the same way that I used to devalue them, and reliving my mistakes in every comment section is killing me. Also, everything turns into twitch chat after they arrive.
Aye. If I want to see their content I can read it on a hexbear amount. They just flood my feed with memes and only barely tangentially related comments that are trying to bait people into saying something that they think gives them the high ground. They’re like the arch Linux users of identity politics.
Aye.
I knew that the toxicity of reddit was affecting me, but I didn’t realize just how much until the move to Lemmy back in June. Everything was just so nice, people just happily chatted in comments, most disagreements were talked through or an “agree to disagree” arrangement was reached. Seeing the rude, angry people and the trolls creep back in was so disappointing (though I do realize it’s inevitable. I used to mod forums back in the day.) Having a good chunk of those negative types on one instances is a positive thing, though. With the tools at hand, we can nip it in the bud by just blocking the lot of them.
Something I think people forget in all these many posts about blocking instances is that blocking is not a permanent thing. The mods aren’t hitting the big red button and nuking the instance from existence forever. It can be undone. Times change, people change, forums/subreddits/instances change as they age. If it looks like things may have improved in a blocked instance, the ban can be lifted.
Yes you should. This instance should not have been federated at all and I regret having voted in favor. You’re a bunch of racist fucks.
Racist because of one parody image of Xi the Pooh that was clearly not even aimed at Asians in general? Jesus you guys are a bunch of snowflakes. And that’s coming from an Asian/Taiwanese myself. We don’t need your self imposed superiority to feel sorry for us. We know what’s racist and what’s not. Thank you.
You can paint the president of the world’s largest asian country yellow and I I’ll tell you it’s fine
pick me
You can depict the current leading party in Taiwan as maggots and I could also tell you it’s fine. In fact, people here already do. The CCP just so happens to be that sensitive about a fucking yellow cartoon bear. Hilarious I know. If they someday be also sensitive about a pink alien and we make fun of it, are you going to tell me it’s racist against aliens?
Old mate here’s drank too much “I’m one of the cool ones” juice
They are just larpers that like the whole USSR/CCP asthetic,my advice is to not engage them since they will just piss you of and no valuable conversation is gonna come out from it.
I am literally an anarchist who has also done more praxis than most of your instance combined.
Anarchists in a community of Russia and chinese apologists. You’re either stupid or a troll
Yeah i bet theyd be much better off in the other Online Anarchist Spaces, where they have contests to see who can hold the least anarchist value and still call themself one, more time is spent fighting Twitter Stalinists and overseas bureaucrats than asking for clean water for minorities in their own country, and any given user could randomly be a toddler or a DHS sockpuppet. So fun, safe, and productive.
Yeah, that time could be spent celebrating worthless morons like Makhno instead of working with people with whom you have common class interests.
lol what kinda anarchist chums around with MLs.
People who realize we have more problems than minor theoretical differences? Nakoichi is an actual organizer who works with indigenous people and that deserves respect if you’re any kind of leftist
you need to read more theory then
point at the theory that says I shouldn’t try to work with every possible leftist in my area. I live in Texas. There aren’t enough of us to go around already and we don’t need to start splitting ourselves over irrelevant shit like the Spanish Civil War.
Give me a title for this one, maybe a more specific citation if it’s part of s book
As an anarchist: like all anarchists (in the English speaking West) do this, anarchism is a small movement.
At the same time, i just spent a bunch of time arguing with a pair of Hexbear accounts that are probably Russian state media so uh… yeesh.
I’d stay clear from hard line MLs as an anarchist lol.
One who isn’t a moronic splitter and understands that the imperial core is their actual enemy
I really don’t understand how you could conclude that it was an aesthetic interest
lmao, no we’re not
I’m not debating you I am pointing out a very obvious fact about your community.
Oh if it’s so obvious you must have plenty of very obvious examples of the entirety of SJW being obviously racist.
Dude ignoe him, its not wort it, hexberians are just gonna keep busting your balls.
they keep trying but they ain’t popping
Yea i already seen your vote comment, you do you m8 and i wish you good luck.
Isn’t it funny how this poll was started by the person who moderates the community with the racist banner? Apparently their opinion counts for something over here 🤔
those damn Chinese citizens making racist memes of themselves!
(for those unaware, Xi Jinping as Winnie the Pooh originated from Chinese citizens making fun of their government)
a chinese person did not make that image of xi with his skin tinted yellow
Not much is known about them, no, but they were born in China. Considering China’s lack of diversity, chances are is that they are ethnically Chinese.
See this is racist as fuck. You have any idea how many ethnic groups exist in China?
What next you’re gonna tell me that Africa isn’t diverse just because there are mostly dark skinned people there?
This is the sort of unexamined racism people are pointing out to you and your only defense is “Nuh uh, I can’t be racist because I never say slurs to people’s face”.
You people have a childlike interpretation of the world.
1,284,446,389 Han
19,568,546 Zhuang
11,774,538 Uyghur
so much diversity!
I literally learned in middleschool that wikipedia was not an acceptable source.
It’s a shame you stopped at middle school or you might have learned how to look at the cited source
it’s literally the census lol
Well that’s a blatant bad faith argument.
See this is racist as fuck. You have any idea how many ethnic groups exist in China?
Mf, Han people makes up 92% of China’s population. And almost all of them live in the eastern edge of the country. Let’s not forget that they’re even more resistant to immigration than Japan and South Korea. It’s one of most ethnically homogenized countries in the world, quite possibly only beaten by North Korea in that aspect.
You’re acting like you’re a paragon of intellect, but this just proves you’re anything but.
We’re not talking about the original meme, we are talking about you changing the skin color of a Chinese person to be yellow. That’s all you.
Just because someone makes a joke about a group they’re a part of doesn’t mean that you then get to take it way further and way more racial.
Of a Chinese person? You mean the Leader of China, not just a Chinese Person, a very powerful, very corrupt dictator.
If it is as racist you claim, why aren’t any other Chinese people in these memes portrayed as whinnie the pooh? Why is it only Xi jinping?
Holy shit can’t even spell the man’s name right. Quick. Without looking at Wikipedia, what’s Xi (Jin)ping’s family name?
Ah, apologies. I have dyslexia.
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lmao, hexbear doesn’t include edits, what a shitty site
Oh, that sounds like fun. What’s the community called?
Hexbearian here, please defederate, thank you
Aye
flan! you’re so silly, you’re from hexbear!
thats ok im pro-defederation
maybe it’ll be a smarter idea to make the post on hexbear?
Don’t worry we’re in the process of defederating from you. I just don’t care which side pulls the trigger first.
Don’t worry we’re in the process of defederating from you.
The only good thing I have ever heard coming from hexbear.
Let’s not use trigger. This isn’t a be-all-end-all situation lol
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Aye.
They’re obviously here just to troll and brigade. The offer nothing of value, while making this instance more annoying.
Defederate. Y’all racist as fuck.
Aye.
I was going to vote against it on principle, but I’m just really tired of their shit.
Aye. They’re more or less another Exploding Heads: an echo chamber with a potent and very precise set of opinions which they smear all over any wall they can find.
Nay.
My beliefs aren"t so fragile that they’re threatened by opposing viewpoints, even those that may not be put forth in good faith.
And I can simply block (the relatively small (?) proportion of) users that don’t engage in good faith.
not sure if my vote is counted since I made the thread
Nay (for now)
I like messing with hexbear users, they have no idea how anything works, they can’t downvote, they’re easy to ban, and they are so damn fun to troll. Buuut they are also very annoying, so I can totally understand the yes.
I block them mostly. They are easy to troll though because they spend most of their time reposting the same memes in their echo chamber. It’s like they’re all people too young to experience /b/ in the 2000s.
Just mention something like “human rights” and see what happens.
The heyday of /b/ (with the caveat that /b/ was never good) was 16 years ago now.
If we assume Hexbear is made up of Gen Z who are in their early 20s, they would’ve been ~4 years old. Hell, even the oldest Gen Z would’ve been ~10. Not exactly the prime age for /b/.
My guess is that Hexbear is a mix of Gen Z who never experienced the peak days of 4chan (and thus never got the edginess out of their system), plus Gen Alpha who are young and stupid.
A lot of Hexbear has their heart in the right place. It’s just their minds are fucking crazy. Like, you can’t support fascism and genocide just because “America bad”.
Yes, America bad.
Yes, America institutionally bad.
Yes, America not fixable for at least a decade (or longer).
But that doesn’t mean it’s time to blindly support China and Russia. Especially when both countries are blatantly anti-LGBTQ. China shut down an LGBTQ center amidst a larger crackdown on LGBT rights; Russia is… Russia.
Brilliantly said.
I think it’s very telling of these individuals who rarely, or not at all, talk about modern-day Vietnam or Cuba, actual communist states. They don’t care about communism.
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This is the kind of shit that makes us want to defed from y’all. This person would be banned for this shit on HB
lol why would that get banned? doesn’t break no rules.
It’s transphobic to imply that you’re being precious by wanting your clearly listed pronouns respected
Oh, no, that’s not what my comment is implying. I always use the correct pronouns! :)
No. It’s implying that for a group of self-tooted “trolls”, you guys are pretty damn fragile. not transphobic either, not everyone who uses pronouns are trans
What exactly is fragile about being angry when someone misgenders you when your gender is unambiguously listed, that’s what you’re supposed to do
I mean it’s in their tags, maybe don’t be a shit head
Like fuck their unironic shitposting and acting like they’re making a positive change in the world but don’t act like using the wrong pronouns is anything but being a dumbass
i always use the right pronouns
trans rights
Are human rights.
Do not understand the mental gymnastics it takes to crow about wanting to misgender trans people to trigger the tankies and then claim you’re supportive of trans people
(Average cishet “ally”)
Again, for like, the millionth time. You can have different pronouns but not be trans lmao
oh hey you’re transphobic too! cool!
Pronouns aren’t tied to sexuality
You said the one joke™that’s not the one joke lol
Close enough that you should be embarrassed. You try to punch left and you find yourself sounding like a chud. Funny how that works.
Punch left? Chud? What?
I’m not hip on your american slang.
And yet you’re “hip” on the word “hip”. Curious.
Or mention something like Xinjiang.
I like messing with hexbear users
And you call us the trolls lmao. Please just defederate already we lose nothing from not seeing your racist bullshit.
damn dude, replying to all my comments now. let’s keep it chill and reduce it to just the one thread.
they have no idea how anything works, they can’t downvote, they’re easy to ban, and they are so damn fun to troll.
ironically enough, this was a large portion of the reason why we federated with you - fascists like you haven’t read a book or essay since high school and so fucking easy to dunk on, so we wanted to have some fun with you. it’s almost like shooting fish in a barrel, you make it too straightforward.
unfortunately the only line you can say is “buuuhhhh Xinjiang Xi Jinping genocide?!?!!” so there’s no real constructive discussion happening anywhere here, we can write pages and pages of well-referenced prose in response and all we’ll get is “
How’s the weather in Beijing, Chinese bot?” so it’s like, what are we even doing anymore.but, despite that fact, I vote Nay, because dunking on you is extremely entertaining and a learning experience for everybody
You’re literally the type of stereotype libs who call anyone they don’t like racists. If somebody just doesn’t believe one of your made up bullshit they’re just a genocide denier
Don’t you dare call me a fucking liberal.
Liberal
As an actual liberal, I don’t want to be associated with you
If somebody just doesn’t believe one of your made up bullshit they’re just a genocide denier
That’s wild, since most of the accusations of “genocide denier” that I have seen lately are from you lot, and it is indeed over made up bullshit
ommmgg no one caaaaares
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The Memmy app lets me block the instance itself but not the users. So I don’t see any of the spam from their communities in my feed but their comments still show up. Super easy to just ignore though. 🤷
this guy seems exhausting and narcissistic
yes, i vote you run away because youre scared.
Aye
Check back when we can whitelist individual members who have proven their ability to post in good faith on other instances. Or in ten years to see if Hexbear’s culture isn’t toxic anymore.
