cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/40372957

fyi:

  • https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp lets you download videos (from youtube and also hundreds of other sites)
  • for desktop, https://mpv.io/ is free and lets you watch youtube (or any other video) at even more and faster speeds than youtube premium does, among many other features
  • for android, https://newpipe.net/ lets you play youtube in the background (and download videos, and block ads, …)
  • https://ublockorigin.com/ blocks ads everywhere (and yes it does still work on youtube, at least in firefox anyway)
  • MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca
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    2 days ago

    That feels dystopian in the same way that a car mechanics offering services like brake pad replacements is dystopian, which is to say, a pretty big stretch. My uncle and his buddies would giggle, a la, Hank Hill if anyone suggested taking that stuff to a mechanic. But for 90% of people, that’s the norm.

    We’ve chosen to spend our time on other skills, just as some people are happy to spend their time not learning the intricacies of software on their computers.

    To each their own I suppose!

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      2 days ago

      the war on general-purpose computing isn’t akin to car mechanics offering services. if you want a car analogy (😬) it is more like car manufacturers attempting to restrict which roads which cars are allowed to drive on (and selling license keys to enable access to other roads).

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        A road analogy only works if it’s their private road which youtube maintains at the cost of hundreds of millions a year.

        Why on Earth does youtube owe you unfettered access to its product? What nonsense is that?

        Not offering a service, on their own product, is not a “war on general-purpose computing” and to claim so is pretty darn childish.

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          A road analogy only works if it’s their private road which youtube maintains

          Their desire to restrict how you interact with their “free” service necessitates eliminating your fundamental ability to tell your computer what to do - not just for “their private road”, but in general. This is what the “war on general computation” is about. (I assume you haven’t watched the talk linked in my earlier comment? there is also a transcript here…)

          To be clear, they have not won this war yet - which is why all of the software linked in the body of this post is still able to exist! But, they are continuing to move in that direction and offerings like YouTube Premium are predicated on their (correct) assumption that, for many people, having agency over their own computers’ behavior is already unimaginable.

          So, re: your earlier comment:

          That feels dystopian in the same way that a car mechanics offering services like brake pad replacements is dystopian, which is to say, a pretty big stretch. My uncle and his buddies would giggle, a la, Hank Hill if anyone suggested taking that stuff to a mechanic. But for 90% of people, that’s the norm.

          I’d say this not at all like car mechanics existing and offering brake pad replacement service. Rather, it is akin to it being made intentionally more difficult and/or outright illegal to replace one’s own brake pads - and also to have them replaced by any local mechanic who does not pay a recurring fee to the company that manufactured the car.

          • MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca
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            Kid, a private service can offer you what it wants. Youtube doesn’t owe you the ability to watch its videos however you want for free.

            Their desire to restrict how you interact with their “free” service necessitates eliminating your fundamental ability to tell your computer what to do - not just for “their private road”, but in general.

            When youtube takes away the programs on YOUR computer, you’ll have a point. But restricting how you get to interact with THEIR stuff is different.

            There is difference between “what you would like” and “what you are owed.”