The season’s ending was pretty disappointing (https://hexbear.net/comment/6743863)
I wonder if Manousos figures out that he can disable the plurb through outbursts and just keeps doing that to one plurb’d node and Carol would have to stop him. If this plot ends up happening I’d be disappointed because I just came up with it in 30 seconds.
Bravo Vince collecting the apple check to do whatever he wants with a sci-fi show that can basically magic any scenario he wants out of thin air and be patted on the back for it.
Also Carol is also just like Diabaté (French speaking dude with the air force one) and only stops when she realizes that she can’t treat the plurb as her own sexual fantasy and slaves.
Manousos is goated only because he envisions a world where the virus is cured. Diabaté is also great because he shares little to nothing about himself and gets to learn a ton from the plurb without them suspecting him (and is actually trying to find a solution to the windfall thing).
Carol shooting at manousos with a shotgun got me heated, white people will always ruin the day.
In any case, I don’t know what angle the show is going for. I guess people called it when it became a christian “lets save the world” type story by someone who only sees the world through ideology.
I’m legitimately mad this mid show that treats solipsistic American exceptionalism as a status quo we should want to return to had its deeply incurious protagonist reading one of the greatest sci fi books ever written. Fuck you Vince, you’re not even in the same ZIP code as Le Guin
Also, Manousos is a right wing libertarian crank and I wish him the worst
No, you don’t understand. See, there’s a future Holodomor coming and that means Plurb Bad and you should abandon your entire worldview and root for the self-centered white woman with a drinking problem.
NGL, having slept on it, I’m even more disappointed they didn’t close it out by having Carol be served a cold dessert under a cloche, lifting it up, giving a sniff, and joining. They’re gonna drag this out 2 or 3 more seasons? Fuck that. I just hope I remember my disappointment and not get sucked back in by the inevitable discourse.
their cartoon jainism is not the myth of the holodomor and is not presented that way
carol is frequently depicted as in the wrong. like her and Manousos are the only ones with problems here, and the text isn’t even clear that the hive mind is bad per se.
The Plurb is absolutely revolutionary coded and the biggest drawback people point to for why it’s bad is the famine.
Tell that to all the people stanning Carol.🤷
i really don’t see that
i don’t think that’s supported in the text, the food issue is a problem to be solved but it’s not the driving force for carol or manousos wanting to un-do the joining.
A violent upheaval in the social order of the world leading to near universal equality (minus the privileged individualists being pampered,) a planned economy, and a society that provides food, shelter, and healthcare for all? Would it help if they renamed Zosia to Fidel? Lol.
And again, the biggest drawback being presented is that ultimately it’s all going to lead to a famine. So to save the world we have to put things back the way it was because it may not be a great system, but it’s the best we’ve got.
it’s just so uninterested in showing us what plurb “society” is like and didn’t show us much of the conflict, it’s hard for me to ascribe anything ideological to the setup.
Everything I’ve mentioned, they have mentioned. Despite everything they’re not telling us, this is what has been specifically shared with us. I’m not implying anything, this has been spelled out. Regardless of whether it’s specifically ideological, The Plurb is a strawman of leftist policies and values.
if it is, it’s so poorly done i can’t recognize it as such.
The picking fruit rule is so goofy. Plants don’t get hurt when you pick fruit they scientifically don’t have a consciousness in any way that can be perceived by humans.
Pluribus stopped being an interesting character drama for me and instead became zombie invasion slop with that one rule alone. Instead of eating peoples corpses they brew them up in a delicious milk explained to you by John Cena.
The show does not want you to see the pluribus as anything other than antagonists. It played fast and loose in the beginning for the sweet TV engagement but it eventually just shuffled itself into predictable tropes.
What if the organism that originally came up with the virus uses some kind of photosynthesis and comes from an ecosystem with no analogue to sentient animals that eat non-sentient plants? If this organism didn’t have a concept of pain, its ethics might revolve around the extinguishing of life itself (regardless of any consciousness attached to it) so that would explain why they’d have such a rule.
Imagine you designed the virus and you had to give it rules about how it could interact with the lifeforms present in whatever planet it reaches. Would you allow it to inflict pain? Because, on planet earth, thanks to plants and fungi it’s possible to sustain yourself without inflicting pain on anything else. But what if the planet that gets infected isn’t like that?
The aliens who designed the Plurb woke mind virus:
Ya. I could see it being both a lib argument against ideological extremism or that was just the best they could come up with to not make the Plurb be a “good” guy. Either way, pretty lazy and they basically lost my interest.
Also incredibly anti-vegan and carnist when the plurb’s solution is eating people to not let them go to waste.
I thought the plurb being vegan was really cool and compelling but its actually why carnism has a place.