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silvercove@lemdro.id to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 years ago

Elektrek: "Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night"

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Elektrek: "Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night"

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Tesla FSD Beta tried to kill me last night
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I was testing Tesla’s latest Full Self-Driving (FSD) Beta update last night (v11.4.7), and a new aggressive bug has nearly...
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    I agree. However, I also acknowledge that with the US’s legal fiction that “Corporations are people,” it’s unlikely that any CEO will ever be held personally responsible for anything except failing to make enough profit for greedy moneygrubbers.

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      Corporate death penalty. Revoke their corporate charter. No more company.

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        While I personally agree, under US shareholder-primacy laws, this would likely be impossible in the current era.

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      That’s not true. Corporations can’t commit crimes because they are just legal entities. People commit crimes.

      Your main issue is that many things that you think are crimes (dumping waste, not paying employees, stiffing suppliers, accidents) are not crimes. They are civil or regulatory issues. If you care, you should pick one and lobby your state to make it a crime.

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        Corporations can’t commit crimes because they are just legal entities.

        The US Supreme Court begs to differ:

        • https://harvardlawreview.org/print/vol-132/corporate-personhood-v-corporate-statehood/
        • https://www.npr.org/2014/07/28/335288388/when-did-companies-become-people-excavating-the-legal-evolution
        • https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/corporations-people-doctrine-real-legal-concept
        • https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/we-the-people/we-the-people-corporations/

        The list goes on.

        [M]any things that you think are crimes (dumping waste, not paying employees, stiffing suppliers, accidents) are not crimes.

        Again, the US federal and state governments would like a word. There’s not a locale in the country that considers theft and intentional illegal pollution not to be criminal acts with fines and, for natural person, imprisonment as punishments. However, you are correct that accidents are generally not considered crimes, although penalties may still apply if they were the result of carelessness or neglect.

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