• Eldritch@piefed.world
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    21 days ago

    Hey now. No reason to start behaving like tankies/ML. If it’s valid for the West to criticize them for their faults. (It is) Then, turn about is just as valid. Even if the criticism comes from a place of hypocrisy like this.

    If anything, this should just be a reminder that no state is your ally or a responsible actor. And that the more power and concentration they have, like the United States, Russia, or China. The more brazenly they will abuse the people they’re supposed to represent and everyone around them.

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      21 days ago

      I was in no way trying to imply that the pot and the kettle aren’t both black. That’s the whole point of the expression.

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        21 days ago

        I know, and that’s why I didn’t down vote you. It’s just not really useful here. The United States calls out China all the time for its imperialism, oppression and abuses. And inevitably ML fall back to United States/West Bad. To defang any criticism. It’s not valid or appropriate when they do it. And it’s not when we do it either. Even when done with appropriate nuance as you did.

        This is something that the United States is absolutely going to have to own. The criticism is 100% deserved and doesn’t need any defense or deflection like that. Unless of course, they are openly saying that they are better than the United States or the West. Then it would be absolutely appropriate. If it weren’t for hypocritical criticism, there wouldn’t be hardly be any criticism.