Link to last week’s reading group post.

Summary of this book.

The first book for this reading group will be Perfect Victims, by Mohammed El-Kurd. I’ve pasted the summary below.

Perfect Victims is an urgent affirmation of the Palestinian condition of resistance and refusal―an ode to the steadfastness of a nation.

Palestine is a microcosm of the world: on fire, stubborn, fragmented, dignified. While a settler colonial state continues to inflict devastating violence, fundamental truths are deliberately obscured—the perpetrators are coddled while the victims are blamed and placed on trial.

Why must Palestinians prove their humanity? And what are the implications of such an infuriatingly impossible task? With fearless prose and lyrical precision, Mohammed El-Kurd refuses a life spent in cross-examination. Rather than asking the oppressed to perform a perfect victimhood, El-Kurd asks friends and foes alike to look Palestinians in the eye, forgoing both deference and condemnation.

How we see Palestine reveals how we see each other; how we see everything else. Masterfully combining candid testimony, history, and reportage, Perfect Victims presents a powerfully simple demand: dignity for the Palestinian.

This book touches a lot on how Palestinians are constantly expected (especially by Europeans, who invented anti-semitism) to apologize for being Palestinians, and for being victimized by Jewish people.

Comrades who can’t afford to buy the book should definitely not go to annas-archive (dot) org and find a digital copy there, since that would be wrong and we are all law-abiding, copyright-respecting citizens.

Sorry about the delay posting this thread. I wanted to wait until after the New Year and then recent events happened.

  • LeninWeave [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netOPM
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    18 days ago

    Anti-zionism reading group Week 3!

    Tagging everyone who I had marked down as potentially interested as well as anyone who participated in the last thread and this one so far. Let me know if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.

    @ChestRockwell@hexbear.net @Champoloo@hexbear.net @ratboy@hexbear.net @junebug2@hexbear.net @hellinkilla@hexbear.net @woozy@hexbear.net @SickSemper@hexbear.net @CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net @ratboy@hexbear.net @Champoloo@hexbear.net @oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net @Beetle@hexbear.net @SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net @SickSemper@hexbear.net @Aradino@hexbear.net @viva_la_juche@hexbear.net @plinky@hexbear.net @towhee@hexbear.net @oculi@anarchist.nexus @SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net @JustSo@hexbear.net

    I’ll probably trim some of the people I initially added as “potentially interested” who don’t end up participating after another thread or so.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name, any]@hexbear.netOPM
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        18 days ago

        Haha, no need if you don’t want to! Just a comment or DM letting me know to keep you on is enough. I might also not bother trimming people preemptively and just remove people if they request it.

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          Echoing what oscardejarjayes said, I thought the 2025 Capital reading group was pretty much dead at this point but people popped in in the last couple weeks to comment. I’d say leave em unless they tell you to take them off, or the account is deleted.

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          Threads where I get at’d to remind me to read the book have been pretty great, even if I didn’t actually discuss much Cowbee’s Capital bookgroup really helped me power through to actually finish it, instead of using up all of my energy on 1, and slowly stopping reading before I even get to book 3.

          Don’t worry too much about trimming people or not, I’ll definitely bring myself up to you or participate in the threads if I have to, it’s really no biggie. My comment was somewhat truthful, but mostly facetious.

  • junebug2 [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    There’s a school of thought in critical theory that the whole idea of the Western citizen (and all the brainworms tied up in that) is defined by opposition to the subjugated. In the United States specifically, the white citizen individual is defined as the opposite of enslaved Black bodies and dispossessed indigenous nations. Notably, Black Americans have been enslaved and indigenous people have had their land stolen for the entire history of the USA, and the state continuously reproduces those categories in order to survive. Of course, the only way to do that is constant violence. You have to take Hegel’s master-slave dialectic a little too seriously to see this as conferring humanity instead of legal status, but there’s good evidence that’s how the author meant it. If you don’t exist within the category of citizen, you aren’t actually seen as an individual. i’ve read a bit about how Hegel and Kant were first anthropologists and race scientists before writing their works of philosophy. The definition of a western or european citizen is ultimately rooted in white supremacy. The settler citizen is free, the opposite of the slave or bonded laborer. The settler citizen has land, the opposite of the dispossessed native. i bring up Yankeestan first because i’m from there, so its easy for me to talk about it.

    The Zionist project is ultimately a European colonial project, and i think the same pattern holds. The Palestinians are obviously the natives being dispossessed of their land, and in many cases Palestinians do menial low paying jobs (which i understand to be one of few available sources of income thanks to Zionist policy). There are also laborers imported from Thailand and the Philippines to do manual labor that is beneath the dignity of Zionist citizens. The citizen is defined by religion, by skin color, by land ownership, and by employment. A great deal of cultural and psychological effort goes into making these categories, and the boundary of the circle is defined by everything outside of it. When El-Kurd says that the humanizing process accepts implicitly that “that the oppressed must demonstrate their worthiness of liberty and dignity, first and foremost. Otherwise occupation, subjugation, police brutality, dispossession, surveillance, and “extrajudicial executions,” would be excusable or even necessary,” i think that’s a necessary principle for citizens of a settler colony. If the oppressed don’t basically deserve it, if the stereotypes aren’t mostly true, then the self-conception and mental stability of the settler citizen collapse.

    El-Kurd also points out the theoretical base for humanization is in bourgeois values. The idea that membership in a common humanity comes from a checklist of certifications is ultimately something that will only help those with money. It imagines “a world where the rich can master roles the poor cannot imagine auditioning for”. I think this bourgeois humanization also exists in contrast to the definition of a citizen i’ve been discussing. You don’t need any amount of money or any degrees or to be actually correct about anything for settler citizens to ‘circle the wagons’ if you are already one of them. The Zionist soldier ‘kidnapped’ out of his tank and Carolyn Bryant (the woman who got Emmett Till lynched) are both citizens according to their societies. They are/ were individuals with value and potential, and so settler society calls them victims regardless of their actions or the facts. By contrast, their enemies are seen as violent thugs who are beyond reason, lurking among the faceless masses who secretly sympathize. The outsider or the non-citizen cannot be individuated or have reasonable complaints in the eyes of the citizen. The idea of humanization is a trap, to waste the energies and resources of non-citizens so that a select few of them can get conditional scraps of citizenship.

    PS

    Can a comrade who speaks Arabic translate “Ajoona min kol qaryeh kharyeh” for us?

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      I’m glad we’re doing 1 chapter a week because everything is so heartbreaking it wrecks me and I need to take a break.  I could read a fiction book this size in a day or 2.  I think it’s going to take me pushing to do 1 chapter a week of this one at this rate

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        I expect that might be what I’ll have to do as well cuddle There’s only one other text that hit me like this and it was a news article that I had to read for school narrated by a woman who survived a massacre in El Salvador in the 80’s.

        In this book, In the case of the first page, I felt a sense of banality behind the terrible things he was describing which made it all the more horrific. I really hope that the people who NEED to read this are doing so

        Edit: I mean in the author’s chosen narrative style

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          Was it El Mozote? Because I read about that in 2019 in an Intercept article and it still haunts me. The Reagan admin belongs in Hell, because it would take an eternity of torture to pay for what evil and sadism they committed.

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    I an almost done with chapter 2 and I don’t even know what to say for discussion. He’s right. Everything he says is incisive and insightful, piercing through the veil of genocidal colonial propaganda and cutting to the roots of the atrocities. I can’t pick any quote out because everything is so important. I’m marking the paper copy and underlining half of most pages.

    And it’s truly overwhelming. Refreshing to see someone speaking the truth without tiptoeing around Zionist respectability politics. And also so sad.