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    The vast majority of the world’s populations lives in the northern hemisphere. Trump just threatened 87% of the worlds population

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      He’s referring to the Western Hemisphere, not the Northern, per the “Monroe Doctrine” that they’ve been going on about lately. It’s some of that manifest destiny kind of bullshit that insists that the entire Americas, Greenland, etc. must be under the US sphere of influence.

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        Whoever combined the words “western” and “hemisphere” was a moron of epic proportions with no understanding for spherical geometry.

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          Spheres can only be sliced one way?? Is that some geometrical definition previously unknown to maths? It’s quite obvious what is meant when western hemisphere is said, you’re either stupid or being deliberately obtuse.

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            The problem isn’t the spheres, the problem is the use of a relative direction with a hemisphere. Even though I have since learned that someone actually came up with a generally valid definition of the “western” hemisphere, the definition of longitude 0 (prime meridian) is completely arbitrary. From fascist 'murica p.o.v., Russia is “the west”

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              It just means west of Greenwich, chill out.

              Yes it’s arbitrary, the reasons are more historiographical rather than geographical, but back when the sun never set on the British empire, it seemed as good a line as any to the people making the rules at the time.

              There’s also no geometric reason why we divide days into 24 hours, but the ancient Egyptians did it so we still do. Why is a week 7 days? Why are there 12 months in a year? Why is a centimeter or a kilogram precisely what it is?

              It’s all arbitrary, but that doesn’t make it any less useful as a standardized concept.

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                It just means west of Greenwich, chill out.

                You don’t say, smartypants. Your comparisons don’t make sense. I didn’t complain about the prime meridian, I said that associating the concept of “west” (or east) with a hemisphere is a moronic take.

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                  No, you said whoever came up with the idea was a moron of epic proportions. And your explanation as to why was directly due to the arbitrariness of the prime meridian.

                  In geospatial terms, anything to the west of the prime meridian has a longitudinal coordinate of n°W, where 0°<n<180°. Anything east of the prime meridian is likewise n°E. Hence, eastern and western hemispheres.

                  Yes, the western hemisphere is to the east of Fiji. No, that doesn’t change anything.

                  I shouldn’t have to break it down into such basic terms for such a smartypants as you, so hopefully this doesn’t come as an insult to your intelligence.

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              Actually, russia is “the north”. Its faster to go over the north pole to get there. (If you ignore Alaska of course)

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        You can leave it all behind, and sail to Lahaina just like the missionaries did so many years ago…

        They even brought a neon sign, “Jesus is coming.” They brought the white man’s burden down, they brought the white man’s reign…

        And you can see them there, on Sunday morning, stand up and sing about, what it’s like up there. They call it Paradise, I don’t know why! Call some place paradise, kiss it good-byyyyyeee…