It’s not that different in anarchy, it just doesn’t work the way you are accustomed to.
When I mention a ‘trial’ it doesn’t refer to someone being a judge - judges are individuals who are supposed to be impartial, and that is impossible.
There is no requirement for how the equivalent of a trial would proceed, but people would discuss it in an open forum, figure out evidence, ask questions, and build a consensus on both the perpetrator and actions to take.
Any action taken, of course, is open to consequences. If it turns out that the people who formed an opinion on guilt and punishment were prejudice against the accused, then they would have to face that too.
There is no requirement for how the equivalent of a trial would proceed, but people would discuss it in an open forum, figure out evidence, ask questions, and build a consensus on both the perpetrator and actions to take.
This just sounds like every trial will be like DSA conventions where they vote on everything and then vote on having votes and then argue about the voting.
Apropos that, what about the violent groups I suggested?
The groups of rapists? Do you intend to prosecute them as a group?
Edit: and modern systems are incapable of preventing rape, or any crime. The threat of prison time does not prevent crime. Crime still happens. Crimes are not identical to one another.
no, i mean. In this anarchist society, how will it defend itself from a group of violent thugs who don’t care for anarchism and only want to enact their will onto others?
Anarchists/radical leftists want a society where weapons are unnecessary. Many are armed until that is possible precisely because the existing establishments are prone to violence.
Again, pre-soviet Ukraine is an excellent example of this.
Some of us choose not to be. But that isn’t to say we won’t take up arms, or provide other means of defending ourselves.
In an anarchist society we would rather work to end the conditions that encourage violence - usually that is inequality. Many people with disabilities can still participate, with no expectations on how they do. Some simply cannot, so we would provide support as possible. Something else to remember is that while people can certainly choose to specialize in a role within the community, polymaths are exceptionally valuable.
We harbor no illusions that the society is easy to obtain. But that can’t be a surprise giving wars have been fought over taxes.
It’s not that different in anarchy, it just doesn’t work the way you are accustomed to.
When I mention a ‘trial’ it doesn’t refer to someone being a judge - judges are individuals who are supposed to be impartial, and that is impossible.
There is no requirement for how the equivalent of a trial would proceed, but people would discuss it in an open forum, figure out evidence, ask questions, and build a consensus on both the perpetrator and actions to take.
Any action taken, of course, is open to consequences. If it turns out that the people who formed an opinion on guilt and punishment were prejudice against the accused, then they would have to face that too.
This just sounds like every trial will be like DSA conventions where they vote on everything and then vote on having votes and then argue about the voting.
Apropos that, what about the violent groups I suggested?
The groups of rapists? Do you intend to prosecute them as a group?
Edit: and modern systems are incapable of preventing rape, or any crime. The threat of prison time does not prevent crime. Crime still happens. Crimes are not identical to one another.
no, i mean. In this anarchist society, how will it defend itself from a group of violent thugs who don’t care for anarchism and only want to enact their will onto others?
I already went over that - anarchists aren’t pacifists.
Someone will see them, and inform others, and they will self organize into a temporary militia.
but doesn’t that make a group hiearchy or is everyone in this society packing?
A large number of anarchists are armed, yes.
Two things can be true like everything in life.
Anarchists/radical leftists want a society where weapons are unnecessary. Many are armed until that is possible precisely because the existing establishments are prone to violence.
Again, pre-soviet Ukraine is an excellent example of this.
Some of us choose not to be. But that isn’t to say we won’t take up arms, or provide other means of defending ourselves.
In an anarchist society we would rather work to end the conditions that encourage violence - usually that is inequality. Many people with disabilities can still participate, with no expectations on how they do. Some simply cannot, so we would provide support as possible. Something else to remember is that while people can certainly choose to specialize in a role within the community, polymaths are exceptionally valuable.
We harbor no illusions that the society is easy to obtain. But that can’t be a surprise giving wars have been fought over taxes.
Idunno man, this all sounds impossible without an apocalypse.