We talked about the possibility of an election, likelyhood and risk in another thread yesterday. With party and leader numbers like these… maybe it’s more likely than I thought.
We talked about the possibility of an election, likelyhood and risk in another thread yesterday. With party and leader numbers like these… maybe it’s more likely than I thought.
The party with the most potential to reach that entrenched conservative vote is the NDP. If they can show working class voters that they’re the ones really fighting for them, they have an opportunity to make big inroads.
I would like to believe that’s true, but I’m not convinced that it is.
The Conservatives had an entrenched 30-33% of the vote, all the way through the Layton years.
Sure, and the Liberals have always had their entrenched numbers too.
If you believe that the entire Canadian electorate is fundamentally unchangeable, then you’re basically arguing that there’s no point in third parties even existing. We are doomed to endlessly rock back and forth between Cons and Libs forever, and nothing can be done about it.
True but there’s an argument to be made that by the time of Layton, the NDP had already abandoned its unabashed pro-worker agenda for a neolib-lite one with social progs characteristics. Check this from 2011. It could easily be a LPC platform. Their 2006 platform was similar. Today NDP leadership campaigns talk about workers, worker rights, unions, jobs programs, democratizing workplaces, new crown corps, etc. Not saying it’s guaranteed to shake workers from PP’s grip, but that there’s a notable shift in policy proposals and focus. That said the NDP arose from the needs of unionists and socialist farmers where the current con hotbed is so perhaps there’s a chance.
Yeah, there’s this obsessive nostalgia around Layton that tends to blind people to the fact that he wasn’t the progressive socialist hero that everyone has recast him as in their minds.
True, and it was actually the NDP that the Conservatives got a lot of vote share from, despite a lot of people assuming the Liberals got NDP votes.
Both happened.
I never said both didn’t happen, but the important metric is how seats flipped (since afaik there’s no info on individual vote intention changes)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Canadian_federal_election#Seats_that_changed_hands
Liberals gained 7 from NDP, Conservatives gained 10 from NDP.
I didn’t mean to say you’re wrong.