We talked about the possibility of an election, likelyhood and risk in another thread yesterday. With party and leader numbers like these… maybe it’s more likely than I thought.

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  • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caOP
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    It’s wild to me that with as centrist as Carney’s been, he’s barely pulled any of the actual conservative vote to him. Really seems like we have a serious problem with growing entrenched conservatism in this country.

    You can say that again. It’s also not geographically uniform. It’s much more entrenched in some places than others.

    I know every online leftist seems to think Carney is the devil

    I’d like to mildly push back on this. A lot of lefties, myself included, can hold two opinions at once - that he was/is a necessary tool to achieve the goal of keeping PP from power in the current socioeconomic context, and that he is/going to be harmful in certain ways. Accessible voter pool numbers for NDP/LPC support the hypothesis that lefties have provisionally lent their support to Carney. I have both paid to get Carney elected, and I shit on him regularly. In fact I think anyone who’s voted for him should shit on him. The Canadian culture of not complaining much isn’t good for us.

    • masterspace@lemmy.ca
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      I generally agree with most of what you said, but there’s a balance to be struck when it comes to shitting on things.

      If you publish that opinion online, be it a newspaper editorial, or a random comment on a post, you are helping to spread that opinion, and that general emotional sentiment, to others.

      And both social media companies, and foreign governments (and some internal actors), all benefit from the population being angry and divided. There is a constant bias towards anger that always need tempering.

      Well thought out and reasoned critiques about specific choices are one thing, glib comments made from skimming headlines are another (not saying that’s what you do, but that’s what a lot of social media users of all kinds, be they Reddit, Lemmy, Facebook, Mastodon etc) do.

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caOP
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        Yes.

        Us here are just a bunch of people exchanging opinions through fleeting breaks throughout the day so it’s normal for people’s opinions to be glib oneliners, like they often are in RL. You’re right that they reach further and last longer here than RL but I don’t think we percieve it that way and I don’t think there’s a good chance for that changing. It’s why you try to say something more thoughtful, so others hopefully see it and think a bit more. I don’t think there’s a point to feel negative if people don’t put as much effort. You do what you can. Others too. Not sure if this comment was useful. 😄