• RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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    1. What are Wagner doing in Africa? Guarding mines and shit. What was Azov doing in Eastern Uktaine before Russia stopped them? Slaughtering 8,000 people with the blessing of the nazi coup government.

    2. Spain being imperialist (imperialistic is not a word) doesn’t make, for example, Morocco imperialist. You seem to think I’m saying Russia is a lesser imperial power. You are wrong: Russia is not an imperial power at all.

    3. You, emphatically

    You guys sound like liberals defending the invasion of Iraq.

    Oh, the US/NATO military venture designed to sieze control of a country’s resources by manufacturing a conflict with a government headed by a guy we put there in the first place?

    Yeah, imagine defending something like that. If this was 2002 your gullible ass would be calling me a Saddam Lover. But of course, now that we’ve already fucked up Iraq, that war can join the list of US crimes that liberals were definitely, totally for realsies always against from the beginning. You people are as craven as you are predictable. Always opposing every war after it’s too late and supporting every war when it actually matters.

    In 5 years or so when we get 9/11 2: This Time it’s Ukranian, you’ll say"Everyone knew that starting the Ukraine War was a bad and criminal idea, but this time it’s different! This time we need to support (a puppet government in the Philippines doing ethnic cleansing against Chinese people or something) against big, evil, fascist Gyna, who attacked for no reason! Democracy itself is on the line!" Over and over every few years, never learning, until we’re all dead.

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      My gullible ass is old enough to actually have been out in the street protesting against US/NATO and the invasion of Iraq back in 2002. You’re defending Putin’s war as if it’s justifiable by Azov or by Euromaidan. And arresting and making Tymoshenko a political prisoner or breaking the Budapest Memorandum is of course all reasonable, right?

      Btw, imperialistic: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imperialistic

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        My gullible ass is old enough to actually have been out in the street protesting against US/NATO and the invasion of Iraq back in 2002

        And you still didn’t learn your lesson about trusting the US government when they tell you it’s time to start some shit with their manufactured villain of the week? That’s inexcusable dude, I was 7 and I learned that.

        Putin’s war

        So which is it you believe: that the Donbas Republics had no right to call for help against a nazi coup government that was slaughtering them.by the thousands, that the nazi coup government was somehow tricked into doing ethnic cleansing by devious Putin, or that the ethnic cleansing didn’t happen at all? Any of the three is equally disgusting.

        And arresting and making Tymoshenko a political prisoner or breaking the Budapest Memorandum is of course all reasonable, right?

        I don’t know or care about this one rando you’re talking about when you’re supporting a bunch of Israeli-trained nazis killing eight thousand people for speaking a language they don’t like, and endlessly opposing the army that’s stopped it. Stop caping for nazis.

        This is the puppet government’s national hero. When you support them, you support this.