I’m not talking about how individual capitalists or socialists use democracy, but how democracy as a system functions in capitalism vs. socialism. My point isn’t that democracy is bad, but that democracy can only exist in the context of the class struggle, and in economic systems dominated by capitalism, the democratic institutions will inevitably be hollow and unusable for the purposes of establishing socialism.
I absolutely understand the basic concept, my point is that socialists in the, say, US, or Canada, cannot use existing structures of “democracy” to bring about socialism. No cognitive dissonance on my part, just pure metaphysical thinking on yours.
I’m not talking about how individual capitalists or socialists use democracy, but how democracy as a system functions in capitalism vs. socialism.
You may as well be saying, “It’s not who uses the hammer that makes it bad, but how they use it, that does.” My brother in Christ…the person using it decides how it’s used. FFS. You are talking in circles again without realizing you’re arguing against your point.
Do you believe that things like the media, culture, state, and industry have absolutely no impact whatsoever on how things are decided in a given system?
I’m not talking about how individual capitalists or socialists use democracy, but how democracy as a system functions in capitalism vs. socialism. My point isn’t that democracy is bad, but that democracy can only exist in the context of the class struggle, and in economic systems dominated by capitalism, the democratic institutions will inevitably be hollow and unusable for the purposes of establishing socialism.
I absolutely understand the basic concept, my point is that socialists in the, say, US, or Canada, cannot use existing structures of “democracy” to bring about socialism. No cognitive dissonance on my part, just pure metaphysical thinking on yours.
You may as well be saying, “It’s not who uses the hammer that makes it bad, but how they use it, that does.” My brother in Christ…the person using it decides how it’s used. FFS. You are talking in circles again without realizing you’re arguing against your point.
Do you believe that things like the media, culture, state, and industry have absolutely no impact whatsoever on how things are decided in a given system?