Here’s the thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/24345496
users from meanwhileongrad are banned from dbzer0, so you won’t be able to interact (which you shouldn’t be doing anyway)
Here’s the thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/24345496
users from meanwhileongrad are banned from dbzer0, so you won’t be able to interact (which you shouldn’t be doing anyway)
“Hamas started it” is never a good look. It ignore a lot of context which is precisely what the person meant when saying Israel has always been an obstacle to peace.
More importantly, it’s fixating on the wrong thing. The massacre x 10 000 that is genocide kind of overshadows the rest of it. Using who “started” it as an argument just comes off as trying to justify it.
Like there’s a mountain of corps and half of them are children.
Here’s the comment link: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20723627
It’s really just that. Someone accused you of taking Israel’s side and you defended yourself by saying “Hamas did it first”.
“The massacre x 10 000 that is genocide kind of overshadows the rest of it.”
Even if you included the Nakba, there is no way the IDF killed 12 million Palestinians.
You combed back 5 months into their history to find this…? That’s …weird to say the least.
YPTB is very much obsessed with me and circlejerk themselves into falsehoods about what I actually believe in
No. I just had it saved because it struck me as clear cut Israel propaganda at the time. You can see the little bookmark icon being selected.
It’s easier to challenge the more subtle stuff if I can go back and point to a clearly pro-Israel comment, so I make a habit of saving them.
Fun fact: I’m fairly certain I actually defended goat in that thread before he made that comment.
I never said Hamas started it. The conflict between Palestine and Israel has been going on for decades. I’m saying that Hamas’s actions on the 7th of October gave Israel the excuse it was looking for to carry out what’s happening now.
Your reaction to being told Israel has always been an obstacle to peace was pointing that out. It comes out of nowhere, the clarification only serves to pivot the blame.
You are technically right. The problem is, so is everyone else in that argument but your technically right comes off as defending Israel.
Fact is you would never start nitpicking about any other genocide and would ban someone for making the same kind of arguments about China.
I’m going to let it go because I’m not here to harass you but I don’t think your views have changed much.
it isn’t nitpicking, Israel is doing a genocide, never doubted that. If you take ‘Would Israel have the ability to perform it to this scale without using the 7th of October massacres as a reason?’ as defending then there’s nothing I can say or do to convince you otherwise.
You don’t even know what my views are