Sweden knew Canada’s Marc Kennedy was a notorious cheater.

So they set up a camera at the ‘hog line’ to record it.

And caught him doing it at the Olympics.

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  • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    8 days ago
    Why sports?

    Ok so like there are characters, internal voices, trains of thought, concepts flying around. Trying to organize.

    So, we have these dudes. There’s “Big” dude, who is all ALL THIS STUFF IS MINE, DO WHAT I SAY and then we have ʙɪɢ dude who is like “no”. And “Big” guy swings. And gets his ass handed to him in response.

    ʙɪɢ wins the fight. But didn’t like it. And doesn’t want to fight. And doesn’t even understand the need to fight at all because like he totally shares all his food and would rather just share. But he’s gonna have to fight again.

    So ʙɪɢ being a nerd is like, “hey, next guy who has to fight me, I won’t, like, actively try to kill you as long as you don’t actively try to kill me”.

    Yay. Sports.

    • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      8 days ago
      Why do people sports?

      If there’s been an established need to be a winner of a fight, and you’d rather neither of you die, you need rules. An agreement. And penalties for not keeping the agreement. “Sorry, but just this one time I will be forced to go all out.” But, like, real. You beat the shit out of the other person. Still not enough to kill them. Probably. The first time.

      Why do people win sports?

      Even fighting with that caveat is still fucking awful. So, innovate. Find ways to not fight but still determine winner.

      Could be better technique. Could be more strength. Could be more accuracy. Could be more speed. Could be better rules. Could be better enforcement of the rules/agreement.

          • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
            2·
            8 days ago
            Why do people cheat to win?

            Winning is good. Winning means you’re better. If these drugs will make me better, I will use them. If this technique is better, and the rule against it is never enforced, I must use it. It is better. I must be better.

            • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
              1·
              8 days ago
              Why do people cheat to win sports?

              The previous, combined with a lack of understanding of the source of the rules of sport. Or combined with the understanding of the limits of enforcement within the sport.

              The UFC “community” hellhole has several different takes on eye gouging.

              • Eye gouging is dangerous and should be against the rules.
              • Eye gouging is against the rules it just isn’t enforced
              • Refs should start enforcing the eye gouging rule
              • Eye gouging is illegal and he should be arrested
              • it’s just a move and fighters can train to block it
              • Everyone is eye gouging you’d be a fool not to
              • If I can gouge eyes, I’m going to gouge eyes
              • OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO EYE GOUGE, OTHERWISE YOU LOSE
              • I HAVE TO EYE GOUGE HIM BECAUSE OTHERWISE HE’LL EYE GOUGE ME
              • The fighters signed contracts waiving bodily harm, he has to be okay with this, he knew it was coming

              These all support cheating. These all lead to lines of reasoning that support cheating.

              The only take I haven’t come across is:

              • Holy shit why would any sport ever need a formal rule about gouging someone’s eyes obviously that would never be okay in literally any circumstance that isn’t actual life or death how is this a recurring problem what the fuck is wrong with all of you you all deserve to die in a pit
              • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
                1·
                8 days ago

                Why do people want to cheat to win at sports?

                Everyone else is doing it

                If this is true, adapt the rules. Sports are allowed to change.

                They want to be better, more, to grow

                Internal drive. Important, good. Placing more value on this than on the sport, not so much.

                They want to be the best

                Still not bad, from my perspective, because I feel this very deeply. I acknowledge that’s not a valid reason, “I feel this because I feel this”. It’s not at all a universal feeling or experience. Emotion, not logic.

                They want to be better than everyone else

                I swear this is different than the previous statement. Pride vs envy. Pride is good. Envy is bad.

                They can get away with it

                Blame the refs, blame the sport, blame the fans, blame whatever it takes to disown the conscious choice to cheat

                They have to because everyone else is cheating

                The response to a lack of enforcement of the rules is not to break the same rule yourself; that just propagates the problem.

                The solution is to Eɴꜰᴏʀᴄᴇ the rules yourself. The rules no longer apply. There must be a Pᴇɴᴀʟᴛʏ. The Pᴇɴᴀʟᴛʏ is that THE RULES NO LONGER APPLY.

                There must be a reminder of why the rules were put into place.

                IF I DON'T CHEAT HE WILL

                This is the most broken, problematic one. It’s lashing out in fear. It’s a complete misunderstanding of the purpose and benefits of sports.

                Cheating is fun

                Folks like getting away with things. Some part of the brain produces happy chemicals. People chase happy chemicals. Practically an addiction.

                • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  2·
                  8 days ago

                  I hope someone, somewhere is finding this useful. I did. It was nice getting these thoughts recorded.

                  how someone can feel good about themselves after they win thru cheating

                  I have cheated, gotten away with it, and felt good about it. I have cheated, gotten caught, and felt bad about it. I have cheated, gotten away with it, and felt bad about it. I have cheated, gotten caught, and felt good about it.

                  I have lost a game when someone else cheated, and felt mad about it. I have gotten beat by a cheater, and been impressed by it.

                  I have lost when cheating would have let me win, and never been penalized, and regretted following the rules. I have lost, when cheating would have penalized me, and been proud that I didn’t. I have cheated, gotten caught, and been proud that I took the red card to give my team the chance to win. I have watched others cheat and accept their penalty and still lost.

                  There’s a ton going on. So many reasons, so many avenues, so much context. We can never truly know what’s going on in someone else’s head.

                  My personal drivers would be self/team/community pride, fear, and desire to be sneaky. My counters are respect for the game/other team/sport/rules/agreement/society, fear of getting caught, shame, and general lack of desire to put my success ahead of that of others.

                  These (and others) will have different weights from person to person. Nature and nurture both come into play.