Conservatism can be traced back to royalists in both pre-revolutionary America and France. It is as it always was. It has never been about conserving anything but privilege and has always sought control over everyone else.
What you call conservativism was a rather unconvincing PR campaign. It was never about personal liberty or freedom. It was definitely never about conservation.
I leaned what it is from my grandpa, not a history book. He was tolerant and treated it as the root word suggests. Most of those in the US today could not care less about your take on it. If you trace any word back in time you will arrive at a point where the meaning was different. I trouble myself with the now and care not for the use of it in the distant past. You case case in point for what I wrote above. Quit calling them that and give them a more accurate and less flattering description. Regressive has no positive qualities. Where conservative does in the modern definition.
Yeah… conservatives have always been regressives. After the french revolution, it was the conservatives that wanted to return back to a monarchy. I think you are confusing yourself with being a liberal.
It would seem that my historical take on it is pretty relevant since it is still what conservatism is doing to this day. What is Trump if not royalty? I would be happy to go back to calling them royalists or autocrats, but I don’t see that catching on.
There is a huge problem in this country with people who embrace progressive policy positions self-identifying as conservatives. It’s used disingenuously by both parties to justify oligarchy.
Conservatism can be traced back to royalists in both pre-revolutionary America and France. It is as it always was. It has never been about conserving anything but privilege and has always sought control over everyone else.
What you call conservativism was a rather unconvincing PR campaign. It was never about personal liberty or freedom. It was definitely never about conservation.
I leaned what it is from my grandpa, not a history book. He was tolerant and treated it as the root word suggests. Most of those in the US today could not care less about your take on it. If you trace any word back in time you will arrive at a point where the meaning was different. I trouble myself with the now and care not for the use of it in the distant past. You case case in point for what I wrote above. Quit calling them that and give them a more accurate and less flattering description. Regressive has no positive qualities. Where conservative does in the modern definition.
Yeah… conservatives have always been regressives. After the french revolution, it was the conservatives that wanted to return back to a monarchy. I think you are confusing yourself with being a liberal.
I’m not. I’m also not confusing my self with a french revolutionary.
It would seem that my historical take on it is pretty relevant since it is still what conservatism is doing to this day. What is Trump if not royalty? I would be happy to go back to calling them royalists or autocrats, but I don’t see that catching on.
There is a huge problem in this country with people who embrace progressive policy positions self-identifying as conservatives. It’s used disingenuously by both parties to justify oligarchy.