• Asetru@feddit.org
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    24 hours ago

    The US comparison is stupid because the US are literally the worst offender when it comes to emissions per capita. That way you’re hanging the bar so low you’ll always end up winning.

    I linked the emissions statistics I used earlier: https://ourworldindata.org/profile/co2/china

    I’m well aware that China installs more renewables than anybody else. They also install much, much more coal than anybody else. So yeah, it could be worse, but it’s still horrific and greenwashing that by comparing it to metrics of economic growth doesn’t change it.

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      24 hours ago

      The US comparison isn’t “stupid”, it’s essential when you called China “terrible” on per capita emissions despite them ranking ~25th globally with emissions roughly half the US level. Even ignoring peer comparisons, China’s per capita footprint is only slightly above the EU average despite manufacturing goods for Western consumption, many EU countries appear “cleaner” only because they offshored production emissions to China .

      Your coal argument also ignores context: China’s new coal units are ultra-supercritical (44–48% efficiency vs. ~30% for older plants), replacing dirtier capacity and lowering net emissions per kWh Global Energy Prize. Crucially, coal utilization has fallen to ~51% as renewables cover demand growth, solar and wind supplied ~90% of new electricity demand in Q3 2025 alone Carbon Brief.

      China also has 339 GW of wind/solar under construction, nearly twice the rest of the world combined Global Energy Monitor. Emissions have been flat or falling for 18+ months, consistent with a 2024 peak Carbon Brief. If you’re citing OWID but ignoring rank data, consumption-based accounting, plant efficiency, and quarterly trends, you’re not engaging with the actual metrics you’re pushing a narrative.

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        21 hours ago

        Your coal argument also ignores context: China’s new coal units are ultra-supercritical

        Lol so we’re defending Gigawatts worth of new coal plants now? Arguing that those are the better ones? This is just ridiculous.

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          20 hours ago

          Replacing old inefficient plants with new effecient ones reducing net emissions is good yes. I feel bad for your teachers having a student who’s brain has clearly been medically removed.