• tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    What fucking discussion?

    “It’s totally natural to invade a country, rape and torture its people, kidnap the children, destroy everything we can’t have”? Get fucked.

    You’re shilling for a pile of immoral, barbaric thieves. While 25% of Russian citizens (mostly ethnic minorities of course) shit in a hole in the ground for lack of plumbing, Putin and his Mafia collect yachts and private jets. And you can’t criticize, protest or complain or he’ll have you killed.

    Fuck Russia. Even my Russian friends agree - fuck Russia. I have both Ukranian and Russian colleagues, and they are friends because - get this - the Russians don’t think the Ukranians should submit or die.

    Hell, the Russian guys think Russia as it is is a shithole of epic shitness, and will never go back. Like 300,000 other expats since this war started, plus the 200,000 or so dead in Ukraine because Putin has a small penis or whatever.

    Fuck. Russia. There is a reason every single ex USSR country that could, joined NATO as soon as they could. You are the idiot who can’t see what’s right in front of your face. Every ex “partner” wants nothing to do with that shithole. Even Belorus wanted out, it took the Russian army invading to force the Belorussians into slavery after Lukashenko lost his election and cheated, and plenty of them are now in Ukraine fighting Russia for their own freedom. Even Armenia now understands that Russia isn’t a partner for shit.

    You still think Russia is winning, you are that dense. “Kyiv in a week” has turned into ever-shrinking occupied territory and continued barbaric torture and bombing of civilians and now grain export infrastructure, because that’s all Russia can do. The “2nd army in the world” lost 50% of its Airforce and Armour in a year (including several strategic bombers) plus its naval flagship, and a bunch of generals and senior colonels, and seen a mutiny which killed a bunch of pilots among others, against a military with barely an air force no Navy, and with one hand tied behind its back. Russia is getting fucked worse than in Afghanistan, and it will only get worse.

    • ֆᎮ⊰◜◟⋎◞◝⊱ֆᎮ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      Even if we took everything a tankie says at face value it still fails at one simple point.

      It’s not ok to invade a sovereign nation. The US has been wrong about doing this, Russia is currently doing it, etc,etc.

      Russian Achilles just don’t see Ukrainians as humans, which fits their history of trying to wipe out Ukrainians and Poles…