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Smackyroon@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

"China is AuThORItAriAN!" - Liberals

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Smackyroon@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago
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      There is no genocide of Uyghurs. Uyghur genocide atrocity propaganda akin to claiming that there’s “white genocide” in South Africa, Christian genocide in Nigeria, or that Hamas sexually assaulted babies in Operation Al-Aqsa Flood.

      In the case of Xinjiang, the area is crucial in the Belt and Road Initiative, so the west backed sepratist groups in order to destabilize the region. China responded with vocational programs and de-radicalization efforts, which the west then twisted into claims of “genocide.” Nevermind that the west responds to seperatism with mass violence, and thus re-education programs focused on rehabilitation are far more humane, the tool was used both for outright violence by the west into a useful narrative to feed its own citizens.

      The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.

      I also recommend reading the UN report and China’s response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.

      Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn’t going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this.

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          international-community-1international-community-2

          “the world”

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          Do you have any proof? The OISC disagree with you. And even the UN doesn’t call it a genocide because that’s not what happened.

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          Please explain how what I said is “bullshit,” I even included the UN report. Why do you like Adrian Zenz?

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              Abuses and genocide are 2 very different things. If you want to talk about the abuses during the ETIM crackdown and what was done wrong etc that’s definitely possible but you should really stop spreading the genocide narrative that smears mud on this real serious conversation.

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                  Funny how you immediately thought genocide

                  https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/…

                  You’re not a serious person.

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                  Because cowbee (who you responded to) was talking about how the genocide narrative is bullshit? Are you illiterate?

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              Linking British propaganda outlets like the BBC, who were caught putting a yellow filter over their vidows in Xinjiang and lying about what people were saying, ie mistranslating, isn’t the win you think it is. I asked why you love Adrian Zenz, not for you to keep posting him.

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                  Yes, you linked more than just the BBC. Your other sources were already answered by the sources I listed, so you either did not look or do not care that you were posting stuff I had already talked about.

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