What’s disappointing is that bodegas are as close to a “third space” as you’re likely to get. It’s not a place you’re meant to hang out, there isn’t even seating, and you are supposed to buy something. And yet, there’s a hint at some kind of community.
UK, Ireland and Australia have a slight improvement on that with pubs. They’re also commercial establishments, but culturally it’s more of a community thing. It’s also not just about alcohol. You can get a hot meal too. Even if someone isn’t going out to hang out with friends down at the pub, it’s often perfectly normal to go there and eat alone while reading a book. Even that is a bit of a community activity, because you’ll see some of the same faces and exchange greetings or at least waves or nods.
Places with serious winters (and I’m including NYC in that), really should have third spaces that are not for profit and designed for various kinds of hanging out: board games, indoor sports, gaming, cooking. That just doesn’t seem to be a common thing in the English speaking world, at least for adults.
The real beauty of the pub/local/neighborhood bar is that is is local and in your neighborhood! You can walk there and walk back after and nobody gets a dui
A difference between the two (at least from what I’ve seen) is that if you go to a bar, you’re going to drink. Whereas a pub always has drinks, but that’s not always the reason to go.
In sociology, the third place refers to the social surroundings that are separate from the two usual social environments of home (“first place”) and workplace (“second place”). Examples of third places include churches, cafes, bars, clubs, libraries, gyms, bookstores, hackerspaces, stoops, parks, and theaters, among others.
What’s disappointing is that bodegas are as close to a “third space” as you’re likely to get. It’s not a place you’re meant to hang out, there isn’t even seating, and you are supposed to buy something. And yet, there’s a hint at some kind of community.
UK, Ireland and Australia have a slight improvement on that with pubs. They’re also commercial establishments, but culturally it’s more of a community thing. It’s also not just about alcohol. You can get a hot meal too. Even if someone isn’t going out to hang out with friends down at the pub, it’s often perfectly normal to go there and eat alone while reading a book. Even that is a bit of a community activity, because you’ll see some of the same faces and exchange greetings or at least waves or nods.
Places with serious winters (and I’m including NYC in that), really should have third spaces that are not for profit and designed for various kinds of hanging out: board games, indoor sports, gaming, cooking. That just doesn’t seem to be a common thing in the English speaking world, at least for adults.
The real beauty of the pub/local/neighborhood bar is that is is local and in your neighborhood! You can walk there and walk back after and nobody gets a dui
A difference between the two (at least from what I’ve seen) is that if you go to a bar, you’re going to drink. Whereas a pub always has drinks, but that’s not always the reason to go.
Til https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place