I never called them lazy, I stated that the mentality is lazy, which it is. Whether or not that laziness is profit driven, it still comes down to not wanting to put forth the effort to make a product that runs better.
Systemic laziness as profit generation is still laziness. We’re just excusing it with cost and shit, and if everyone is lazy, then no one is.
If cost is a justification for this kind of laziness, it also justifies slop code development. After all, it’s cheaper that way, right?
Wouldn’t he only be lazy if he’s not doing anything else more productive instead?
He gets payed to do a specific job, and does it the best way possible given the constraints. I don’t see how you find lazyness in that.
The customer simply isn’t willing to pay the extra time for it to be optimized, and he ain’t doing it for free.
I don’t know which job you do, but do you spend a lot of voluntary overtime just to do things the customer isn’t even asking or paying for just because you think it’s better?
Wouldn’t he only be lazy if he’s not doing anything else more productive instead?
Of course not. It’s rather easy to see how one can choose to be lazy and not do hard work while being “productive” doing easier tasks. But this isn’t about the dev, it’s about the culture.
He gets payed to do a specific job,
Again, stop thinking I’m calling the dev lazy, you’re completely missing my point.
and does it the best way possible given the constraints. I don’t see how you find lazyness in that.
This is the laziness. The constraints imposed by management to get new features out the door at the expense of making their existing features work better is a hallmark of the current development era.
I’m not even going to respond to the last bit because it’s entirely irrelevant to (and completely misunderstands) the point I’m making.
Can you then give me your definition of “lazyness”
The dictionary just gives me “the quality of being unwilling to work or use energy; idleness.”
And i don’t see it anywhere in this situation. They’re asked to do a job a certain way (or for management, to make sure it happens in a certain way), and they do that to the best of their ability.
Could they do it better from an performance/software engineering standpoint if they had infinite time/budget? for sure. But that’s not the world we live in.
I never called them lazy, I stated that the mentality is lazy, which it is. Whether or not that laziness is profit driven, it still comes down to not wanting to put forth the effort to make a product that runs better.
Systemic laziness as profit generation is still laziness. We’re just excusing it with cost and shit, and if everyone is lazy, then no one is.
If cost is a justification for this kind of laziness, it also justifies slop code development. After all, it’s cheaper that way, right?
Wouldn’t he only be lazy if he’s not doing anything else more productive instead?
He gets payed to do a specific job, and does it the best way possible given the constraints. I don’t see how you find lazyness in that.
The customer simply isn’t willing to pay the extra time for it to be optimized, and he ain’t doing it for free.
I don’t know which job you do, but do you spend a lot of voluntary overtime just to do things the customer isn’t even asking or paying for just because you think it’s better?
Of course not. It’s rather easy to see how one can choose to be lazy and not do hard work while being “productive” doing easier tasks. But this isn’t about the dev, it’s about the culture.
Again, stop thinking I’m calling the dev lazy, you’re completely missing my point.
This is the laziness. The constraints imposed by management to get new features out the door at the expense of making their existing features work better is a hallmark of the current development era.
I’m not even going to respond to the last bit because it’s entirely irrelevant to (and completely misunderstands) the point I’m making.
Can you then give me your definition of “lazyness” The dictionary just gives me “the quality of being unwilling to work or use energy; idleness.”
And i don’t see it anywhere in this situation. They’re asked to do a job a certain way (or for management, to make sure it happens in a certain way), and they do that to the best of their ability.
Could they do it better from an performance/software engineering standpoint if they had infinite time/budget? for sure. But that’s not the world we live in.