ICE agents get paychecks. TSA officers get food banks. Same department. Same shutdown. Different bank accounts. Congress chose who eats and who doesn't.
I didn’t address any more of you’re post because I’ve been having this argument for two days, and I’m tired of it.
I mean at that point you really aren’t obligated to engage.
what would a new system look like
Like you said. Basically TSA, just standardized across airports with a common sense streamlining of the rules. Like if I can take down a plane with a full sized tube of toothpaste you can do it with 5 mini tubes of toothpaste that fit in a quart sized bag.
Honestly like I said just model it off of most EU countries’ standards.
to be NICER
Yes, a civil society should hold our government workers to standard. They can act a way that would get any average retail worker fired. Kinda weird. To be clear I’m not saying they need to be subservient to the flier, just polite, decent, and professional. As I expect of all government workers.
How excited are you going to be to start flying in a system that doesn’t bother to screen and passengers or bags, because the cockpit door is locked, so everybody is perfectly safe?
I’m not and never even advocated for a system like that. Maybe someone else in this thread did, but I didn’t because it’s a monumentally bad idea.
You’re the first person in two days to offer ANY alternative beyond “Get rid of TSA because they suck!” and your suggestion is, like I said, basically the same as now, except they’re forced to smile and kiss our asses. That should be gruesome.
I was hoping someone would have suggested some sort of ticket system, where you check in, and you get a number, and groups of people get called for screening. It may require a short wait, but it won’t be an hour+ like it can often be on a good day. Instead, people can sit, nap, walk around, eat, etc. It wouldn’t change anything about the screening process itself, but it would greatly reduce the wait, which is one of the worst problems associated with security screening.
My DMV implemented a system like that, and now going to the DMV is breeze. I’ve never been in there longer than 30 minutes. We could do something like that at Airport Security. We wouldn’t even have to do it at the airports all the time, just at times when things get crazy, like holiday weeks, or like, y’know, now.
But no, it’s all been “TSA isn’t nice enough to me, well not me, it’s never happened to me, but I hear other people say it, and I read one time that someone smuggled a nail file on board, and I’d rather fly with no screening because everybody in the world is nicer than TSA, because they suck!”
I’m sorry dude I tried to be reasonable and give the benefit of the doubt but having some professional standards is not ass kissing. Calm down.
The fact that a small nail file has to be “smuggled” on to a plane, but I can bring a metal pen or a screwdriver under 7in no issues is crazy. Both of those can cause more harm than a nail file. None of them are a threat, as you said it’s been 25 years so clearly a screwdriver is safe. But God help if you have a nail file or a jar of peanut butter.
Streamline the rules to make some sense, and act like a professional. Literally every airport/country in Europe can manage this. Yet somehow it’s just the craziest thing you’ve ever heard.
Also you keep saying 2 days but this post was posted 12hrs ago. I’m clearly not in the other thread you’ve been arguing in
I mean at that point you really aren’t obligated to engage.
Like you said. Basically TSA, just standardized across airports with a common sense streamlining of the rules. Like if I can take down a plane with a full sized tube of toothpaste you can do it with 5 mini tubes of toothpaste that fit in a quart sized bag.
Honestly like I said just model it off of most EU countries’ standards.
Yes, a civil society should hold our government workers to standard. They can act a way that would get any average retail worker fired. Kinda weird. To be clear I’m not saying they need to be subservient to the flier, just polite, decent, and professional. As I expect of all government workers.
I’m not and never even advocated for a system like that. Maybe someone else in this thread did, but I didn’t because it’s a monumentally bad idea.
You’re the first person in two days to offer ANY alternative beyond “Get rid of TSA because they suck!” and your suggestion is, like I said, basically the same as now, except they’re forced to smile and kiss our asses. That should be gruesome.
I was hoping someone would have suggested some sort of ticket system, where you check in, and you get a number, and groups of people get called for screening. It may require a short wait, but it won’t be an hour+ like it can often be on a good day. Instead, people can sit, nap, walk around, eat, etc. It wouldn’t change anything about the screening process itself, but it would greatly reduce the wait, which is one of the worst problems associated with security screening.
My DMV implemented a system like that, and now going to the DMV is breeze. I’ve never been in there longer than 30 minutes. We could do something like that at Airport Security. We wouldn’t even have to do it at the airports all the time, just at times when things get crazy, like holiday weeks, or like, y’know, now.
But no, it’s all been “TSA isn’t nice enough to me, well not me, it’s never happened to me, but I hear other people say it, and I read one time that someone smuggled a nail file on board, and I’d rather fly with no screening because everybody in the world is nicer than TSA, because they suck!”
I’m sorry dude I tried to be reasonable and give the benefit of the doubt but having some professional standards is not ass kissing. Calm down.
The fact that a small nail file has to be “smuggled” on to a plane, but I can bring a metal pen or a screwdriver under 7in no issues is crazy. Both of those can cause more harm than a nail file. None of them are a threat, as you said it’s been 25 years so clearly a screwdriver is safe. But God help if you have a nail file or a jar of peanut butter.
Streamline the rules to make some sense, and act like a professional. Literally every airport/country in Europe can manage this. Yet somehow it’s just the craziest thing you’ve ever heard.
Also you keep saying 2 days but this post was posted 12hrs ago. I’m clearly not in the other thread you’ve been arguing in
I think they are perfectly professional enough. Its bad form to bitch about your fellow working citizens. Save your derision for their Directors.
I had the same argument on a different thread yesterday, with all the same lame arguments. I’m bored.