• Frostbeard@lemmy.world
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    There is no information on how the data is collected. Perhaps China labels the deaths as heart failure or some other cause of death.

    And like the other comments states, these numbers needs to be weighted for population.

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      Our World in Data conducts pretty rigorous research. I’ve looked up their studies before, and they’re pretty impressive. They know what they’re doing.

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      I don’t have access to the source data since you need to register, but I would assume that OurWorldInData knows to aggregate Europe per population, and not just average the values per country. France is not the only outlier, there’s also Norway and probably some others I haven’t seen

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        That fucking makes me curious as I am a Norwegian and hunger and malnutrition is not visible. But 5 in 100000 in Norway with 5.6 million totalt population is 280 people. But it all depends how deaths are reported. In Norway the norm is old age homes, run by the local municipality and there has been discussion how the food served is not the best. And how the residents doesn’t eat enough. Also you need more flavour to make food palatable for the elderly as you loose your sense of taste as you get older.

        How anyone can have infant malnutrition on Norway is beyond me. You have mandatory visita to health station at 1, 3, 6 and 12 months (and 2 and 3 years) with consultation from physician and nurses. They weigh and measure and vaccinate. We got state sponsored prescription for hypoallergenic baby formula, so actual malnutrition should be caught. But I know that some immigrant communities and “alternative medicine” doesn’t trust the system so they might be the numbers.

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        Ok, looked into the data and saw that there were practically zero until 2011 and a steady rise to 5/100000 annually for Norway. That is equal to 280 people a year.

        Looked at national newspapers and found that following numbers: Between 2017 and 2021 860 people had malnutrition and starvation as main cause of death. 3790 had starvation as one of several causes if death.

        These are all gearateic patients in hospital or assistes living. If you stop eating or drinking you will worsen existing conditions and also be more susceptible to new afflictions. Because of increased awareness to this in Norway, doctors writing cause of death has started registering more cases.

        As I said as long as the numbers is just presented and not quality assured and explained it’s like discussing apples and pears. There is a problem with geariatric patients not starvation in Norway.