But to put all of that in context you have to remember the pay, which was also bad.

Lol the one I worked at had a 30% turnover rate because of this. Ridiculously skilled engineers working for a 8-14 month stint before they secured a much better job at a different company.

Even their longest working lead, who had joined since the start as a junior, left a couple of months after I joined

The funniest moment was when HR people ops posted the average expected salary ranges to confluence, which was a full 30% higher than what they announced for yearly raises.