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    I mean you could have simply conseded the point instead of hammering down on your mistake.

    Look at the notebook and show me the word that translates to what you claim it does.

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        Never seen someones argument fall apart so hard after manouvering themselves into a corner.

        The wall of links, nothingburgers, the president who apparently said everything out loud taken completely out of context and then the dramatic notebook. A mistranslation that lead you into believing something to be true just because you wish for it to be so.

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            I mean you could, at any point, proof your points. Like simply spelling out the word on the notebook. Just write it down. Come on, it is so easy.

            Or if that is too much, how about linking that other UN case that must exist where Ukraine did not win the case.

            So many opportunities, none taken. You can also simply accept that you have been lied to by others which lead to you believing a lie. It is okay to make mistakes.

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                I disproved every single point you have made. No link contained what you have claimed. The UN case went to Ukraine. The speach did not contain what you have claimed, the notebook did not either. Disproving your claims is not handwaving.

                I asked you for simple proof, you keep ignoring it. Just say it: Sorry I was wrong, I will not falsely claim that Ukraine commited genocide.

                And if you ignore that again I will just accept that as a silent apology as you clearly have nothing else going on that supports your claim.

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                  If by disproved you mean spewed nonsense confidently then sure. For example, the UN case won’t be resolved till 2028. And that’s just one piece of misinformation that you could’ve easily checked before regurgitating it.

                  The speech contained precisely what I said. Poroshenko was very explicit with what he was saying.

                  We both know what the notebook says too.

                  Just stop lying.

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                    Fair point on the UN case timeline, I was wrong on that. The final ruling isn’t until 2028. That said, the ICJ already stated in 2022 it found no evidence of genocide by Ukraine. Russia’s genocide claim has found zero support in any international body so far.

                    The Poroshenko speech is still documented Russian disinformation from 2014, and підарас still means scumbag regardless of what the translation tool of your choice tells you.

                    Funny how detailed you got when I slipped up, but ‘we both know’ was enough for everything else.