For 5-10 minutes two times a day the lane would be blocked, but both directions of traffic would be obligated to stop. You can wait 5 to 10 minutes
How does this not already apply to cars?
The cars will still have to stop for the bus but it takes the loading and unloading out of direct traffic flow.
As I see it, you want to make it easier for people to illegally pass school busses when they stop to pick kids up. Having the bus move out of the way will just encourage more people to try to pass them.
Do you not see a difference between getting hit by a bike accidentally vs being hit by a car accidentally? Because it seems like you’ve forgotten what I’m talking about.
As I see it, you want to make it easier for people to illegally pass school busses when they stop to pick kids up. Having the bus move out of the way will just encourage more people to try to pass them.
As I see it you’re making perfect the enemy of better. I also say fuck cars, and part of that is the understanding that cars will avoid doing what is expected of them in favor of what is easier for the driver. In this case it’s hitting children instead of paying attention and following the signals. I’m focused on fixing the problem, not making a perfect and fair world.
For bicycle lanes to work properly, everyone needs to feel safe riding on them. Think of an elderly person, with some mobility issues and needing to carry stuff around. Therefore they need to be isolated from traffic all the time. If they are not, only able bodied users will come, and the effect will be minuscule.
You are not proposing a bicycle lane, but a mixed use road. The literature has proven that they are inferior, should not be encouraged.
understanding that cars will avoid doing what is expected of them in favor of what is easier for the driver.
Which, with your idea, would be passing school buses when they pull over into the bike lane. We don’t want them doing that, which is why we shouldn’t be making it easier for cars to drive around buses when they’re legally obligated to stop and wait.
In this case it’s hitting children instead of paying attention and following the signals.
If someone isn’t going to see a giant yellow bus with flashing lights, they aren’t going to see a kid trying to cross the street to get to that bus. What you’re proposing isn’t any kind of solution to keep people safe. I don’t know what it is if it’s not just making it easier for people to illegally pass school buses.
How does this not already apply to cars?
As I see it, you want to make it easier for people to illegally pass school busses when they stop to pick kids up. Having the bus move out of the way will just encourage more people to try to pass them.
Do you not see a difference between getting hit by a bike accidentally vs being hit by a car accidentally? Because it seems like you’ve forgotten what I’m talking about.
As I see it you’re making perfect the enemy of better. I also say fuck cars, and part of that is the understanding that cars will avoid doing what is expected of them in favor of what is easier for the driver. In this case it’s hitting children instead of paying attention and following the signals. I’m focused on fixing the problem, not making a perfect and fair world.
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For bicycle lanes to work properly, everyone needs to feel safe riding on them. Think of an elderly person, with some mobility issues and needing to carry stuff around. Therefore they need to be isolated from traffic all the time. If they are not, only able bodied users will come, and the effect will be minuscule.
You are not proposing a bicycle lane, but a mixed use road. The literature has proven that they are inferior, should not be encouraged.
Which, with your idea, would be passing school buses when they pull over into the bike lane. We don’t want them doing that, which is why we shouldn’t be making it easier for cars to drive around buses when they’re legally obligated to stop and wait.
If someone isn’t going to see a giant yellow bus with flashing lights, they aren’t going to see a kid trying to cross the street to get to that bus. What you’re proposing isn’t any kind of solution to keep people safe. I don’t know what it is if it’s not just making it easier for people to illegally pass school buses.
I. Don’t. Care. About. Your. Lack. Of. Imagination.
Talk to someone else about how stupid you imagine I am.
They definitely will.