You know what’s more dangerous for cyclists than traffic zooming by on an unprotected bike lane? Giant busses with limited visibility swerving in and out of that lane.
You guys keep replying to me like I don’t already know all of this. Doesn’t change the fact that right now there isn’t bike infrastructure or bus infrastructure at all. Right now cyclists and children waiting for the bus have nothing. I’m proposing something. Do I think it’s the perfect solution? No. Do I think it would be an improvement for this situation? Yes.
I think what we’re trying to say is that your suggestion is not an improvement. It increases risks to cyclists, doesn’t protect pedestrians, and only serves to improve car throughput which is not a priority.
Enforcement and heavy penalties for breaking what is already the law would be good, as would be a dedicated bus lane, protected sidewalks, installing speed governors on all vehicles limiting them to 30kph… there are lots of options that would clearly improve safety, and you’re advocating for the one that doesn’t help anyone but selfish drivers.
No, you’re making excuses for selfish drivers when a wide variety of cheap, practical options are available that will save lives.
Enforce existing laws
Create a dedicated bus lane
Introduce traffic calming
Limit car speeds
Ban fucking cars
OK, maybe that last one is impractical in car sewer towns, but your plan of creating a sacrificial bike lane would only get cyclists killed and allow drivers to go faster.
You know what’s more dangerous for cyclists than traffic zooming by on an unprotected bike lane? Giant busses with limited visibility swerving in and out of that lane.
You guys keep replying to me like I don’t already know all of this. Doesn’t change the fact that right now there isn’t bike infrastructure or bus infrastructure at all. Right now cyclists and children waiting for the bus have nothing. I’m proposing something. Do I think it’s the perfect solution? No. Do I think it would be an improvement for this situation? Yes.
I think what we’re trying to say is that your suggestion is not an improvement. It increases risks to cyclists, doesn’t protect pedestrians, and only serves to improve car throughput which is not a priority.
Enforcement and heavy penalties for breaking what is already the law would be good, as would be a dedicated bus lane, protected sidewalks, installing speed governors on all vehicles limiting them to 30kph… there are lots of options that would clearly improve safety, and you’re advocating for the one that doesn’t help anyone but selfish drivers.
And their child victims. We keep skipping right over those. Y’all keep making perfect the enemy of better.
No, you’re making excuses for selfish drivers when a wide variety of cheap, practical options are available that will save lives.
OK, maybe that last one is impractical in car sewer towns, but your plan of creating a sacrificial bike lane would only get cyclists killed and allow drivers to go faster.
Repeating yourself doesn’t change my mind, and I’m not going to repeat myself a 3rd time.
…and you’re annoyed that we felt we needed to repeat ourselves.
Okay