I don’t think it is. Not the meme anyway. u/jankforlife may be pro-Russian (which is the correct stance for any anti-imperialist to take) and post other memes that are pro-Russian, but this particular meme is neutral as to whether Russia is a positive or negative force in geopolitics. It’s just pointing out the double standard of western liberals. But yes, you are of course correct that there are no “lies” being repeated here, this piefed bootlicker is just throwing a tantrum about seeing a meme where Russia isn’t explicitly being compared to Mordor and Putin to Voldemort, and it’s breaking their propaganda-pickled brain.
Russia has not been imperialist since it was under the Tsar, the Soviets got rid of their imperial and colonial holdings. Even if modern Russia wanted to be imperialist, the actual imperialist countries have already divided the world amongst themselves and are actively trying to break Russia up or force it into opening its capital markets.
So the attempts to conquer Ukraine, make Belarus, Moldavia and others to vassal states and publicly mentioned wishes to reunite Soviet Union are not Imperialism for you? Okay, we don’t need to further discuss then.
For me, every country military attacking other countries and not respecting borders, sovereignty and humanity is to blame. Doesn’t matter which Color they have of language they speak. I’m to mature for Cold War Like bandwagoning
Russia isn’t trying to vassalize Belarus, etc, and doesn’t want to “conquer Ukraine,” it just wants to annex the Donbass region that already seceded from Kiev after the Banderite coup. Russia tries to draw on soviet nostalgia to keep the capitalists in power and prevent the communists from taking power. Imperialism is a stage in capitalism, not a mere policy preference.
As for the universal condemnation of force, this means you don’t support the Statesian north abolishing chattel slavery in the south, or any revolution in history. Reality is far more complex than that, which is why the good side lost the Cold War.
Well, seems we have a deeply different perception of reality. It’s hard for me to understand yours without assuming hardly brainwashing or lying, but I don’t see a reason to discuss this as we won’t agree on that.
Russia is the part of the United Nations, as the official announced follower state of Soviet Union even a founding member and permanent part of the UN Security Council. And currently in Ukraine it’s violating many many rules of the UN Charta. Don’t come with ‚USA is Doing also!‘ because shit USA or anyone else is doing isn’t a reason to do the same or worse.
Some people in Ukrainian oblast wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia. That’s not a reason to invade. Neither in Ukraine nor other countries. I think almost every countries has parts of the population that wants to belong to another country or independence. That isn’t a justification to send troops to this country and and harm UN Charta.
And by the way: the international criminal court (ratified by 125 countries all over the world, also many from the global south) not just issued an arrest warrant because of war crimes against humanity and genocide for Putin but also for Netanjahu. I support both of them and think it should be common sense for anyone interested in human rights and peace. And downvoting me because of this tells a lot about yourself.
I’m neither lying nor “brainwashed,” the difference in analysis is because I am a communist, and am analyzing the situation with the world outlook of dialectical materialism.
As for Russia violating international law, Donetsk and Luhansk seceded from Kiev because of ethnic repressions against minority ethnicities in the Donbass region. International organizations correctly identified the neofascist nature of the new Kiev regime, as well as the war crimes committed against the Donbass region. In such a situation, do you think the DPR and LPR do not have the right to request Russian assistance in accordance with international law?
You’re being widely downvoted because you’re downplaying Kiev’s neofascism and essentially saying the Donbass region should accept being ethnically cleansed by Kiev. This is ridiculous, and you know it is, so you downplay the ethnic cleansing in order to protect your own image.
It’s not a lie, it’s an easily demonstrable fact. But the meme that you are whining and pissing yourself about says nothing about the fact that Ukraine is a Nazi state (which it is). All it says is that there is a common double standard to what many people (presumably western liberals) think what constitutes a “war crime” vs an “unfortunate but necessary” act depending on whether that act was performed by one of the US’s enemies or by the US and its ally regimes. You are just looking for something to throw a fit about.
Dude (or Dudette/Dudettex, before someone shifts the conversation again to gender related topics), having far right/nationalistic groups inside your country doesn’t mean it’s a Nazi-state. Otherwise almost every country of the world would be one. Especially also Russia.
Also me picking this particular post wasn‘t about this particular meme but because it was the 4th or 5th post of OP in my timeline in few minutes. It was spam. And the other ones were way more specific about Ukraine = Nazi.
if you want my personal opinion about this meme and the other countries:
USA in Iran is a stupid, unjustified war/attack to distract from US-national politics, problems and child rape. Still Iran government is also inhumane to its own people, but US is making worse currently
Russia attacking Ukraine is a stupid, unjustified war because of an old dictator thinking he is god. So many war crimes and civilian deaths and the only person able to stop it sits in Russia. When Russian troops are 100% back in Russia and Ukraine is still trying to capture more land we can talk about them. Till then, it’s completely about Russia. Ukraine didn’t start the fight, they are still defending their own territory.
Israel is committing war crimes and genocide in Palestine.
China isn’t related at all currently. As long as they don’t invade Taiwan and their troops stay on Chinese ground, there is no sense at all to include them in this meme
Far right party Svoboda got 2,16% of votes during the 2019 election. By the begin of the war over 300 international scientists and experts in World War Two, Holocaust, national socialism and genocide signed a letter, that Ukraine can’t be called a Nazi-regime, although they have for sure, like every other country, far right people. Also Jewish people in Ukraine publicly claim that they feel more threatened by Putin and Russian missiles than by right extremists inside their country. But for sure, you know better, keyboard warrior.
But let’s follow this reason for war: why isn’t Russia attacking Germany, where the far right party is stronger than ever since WW2? Why isn’t it attacking USA, where MAGA is probably closer to the Nazis than anyone in Europe was since the war? Why isn’t it attacking China, that politics is far far away from national socialism but still highly dominated by racism? Why isn’t it attacking Argentina and southern Brasil, where you still can see and feel in everyday life that many German Nazis moved there after WW2?
What the reason Russia is attacking Ukraine or not have anything to do with Ukraine having a shit tons of nazis and the Ukraine government doing nothing againts them?
Good that you mentioned Brasil, you’ll never see Lula shaking hands with nazis, but you could see Bolsonaro doing this shit.
Because this was the main reason Russian government mentioned to justify the attacks.
And I’m sorry, but I think if tomorrow India starts attacking Brazil and far right people playing a significant role in defending it, Lula will also be forced to shake their hands in few years. Just because in this situation they are the lower risk and he needs them.
If Russia stops the war and leaves Ukraine completely, Ukraine will have the chance to show they are doing something against Nazis. The earlier, the easier because they have less time to earn ‚honour in war‘. But as long as Ukraine is dependent on everyone supporting their defence, it won’t be possible.
Also I think it’s always funny to mention this in the context of Russian und Ukrainian war. Putins politic is currently probably closer to Hitler than to any communistic leader.
President Volodymyr Zelensky provided full state honors for the ritual, signaling a deep shift in Ukrainian politics after Russia’s invasion in 2022. Before then, Mr. Zelensky had kept nationalist politics at arm’s length; in the reburial, he embraced them.
Maybe it’s a language thing, I don’t wanna discuss this because this is not what my comment was about.
By repeating Russian propaganda and lies that was used to justify attacking Ukraine, bombing hospitals and killing civilians.
What lies are being repeated? It’s definitely pro-Russian, but what is the lie?
I don’t think it is. Not the meme anyway. u/jankforlife may be pro-Russian (which is the correct stance for any anti-imperialist to take) and post other memes that are pro-Russian, but this particular meme is neutral as to whether Russia is a positive or negative force in geopolitics. It’s just pointing out the double standard of western liberals. But yes, you are of course correct that there are no “lies” being repeated here, this piefed bootlicker is just throwing a tantrum about seeing a meme where Russia isn’t explicitly being compared to Mordor and Putin to Voldemort, and it’s breaking their propaganda-pickled brain.
Fair enough!
Anti imperialistic is pro Russian? Are you insane? Russia itself is a country with one of the most imperialistic track records in recent history.
Wake up, it’s not 1950 anymore. It’s not USA vs. Russia and you have to pick one side. You can outcall them both. You should!
Russia has not been imperialist since it was under the Tsar, the Soviets got rid of their imperial and colonial holdings. Even if modern Russia wanted to be imperialist, the actual imperialist countries have already divided the world amongst themselves and are actively trying to break Russia up or force it into opening its capital markets.
So the attempts to conquer Ukraine, make Belarus, Moldavia and others to vassal states and publicly mentioned wishes to reunite Soviet Union are not Imperialism for you? Okay, we don’t need to further discuss then.
For me, every country military attacking other countries and not respecting borders, sovereignty and humanity is to blame. Doesn’t matter which Color they have of language they speak. I’m to mature for Cold War Like bandwagoning
Russia isn’t trying to vassalize Belarus, etc, and doesn’t want to “conquer Ukraine,” it just wants to annex the Donbass region that already seceded from Kiev after the Banderite coup. Russia tries to draw on soviet nostalgia to keep the capitalists in power and prevent the communists from taking power. Imperialism is a stage in capitalism, not a mere policy preference.
As for the universal condemnation of force, this means you don’t support the Statesian north abolishing chattel slavery in the south, or any revolution in history. Reality is far more complex than that, which is why the good side lost the Cold War.
Well, seems we have a deeply different perception of reality. It’s hard for me to understand yours without assuming hardly brainwashing or lying, but I don’t see a reason to discuss this as we won’t agree on that.
Russia is the part of the United Nations, as the official announced follower state of Soviet Union even a founding member and permanent part of the UN Security Council. And currently in Ukraine it’s violating many many rules of the UN Charta. Don’t come with ‚USA is Doing also!‘ because shit USA or anyone else is doing isn’t a reason to do the same or worse.
Some people in Ukrainian oblast wanted Ukraine to be part of Russia. That’s not a reason to invade. Neither in Ukraine nor other countries. I think almost every countries has parts of the population that wants to belong to another country or independence. That isn’t a justification to send troops to this country and and harm UN Charta.
And by the way: the international criminal court (ratified by 125 countries all over the world, also many from the global south) not just issued an arrest warrant because of war crimes against humanity and genocide for Putin but also for Netanjahu. I support both of them and think it should be common sense for anyone interested in human rights and peace. And downvoting me because of this tells a lot about yourself.
I’m neither lying nor “brainwashed,” the difference in analysis is because I am a communist, and am analyzing the situation with the world outlook of dialectical materialism.
As for Russia violating international law, Donetsk and Luhansk seceded from Kiev because of ethnic repressions against minority ethnicities in the Donbass region. International organizations correctly identified the neofascist nature of the new Kiev regime, as well as the war crimes committed against the Donbass region. In such a situation, do you think the DPR and LPR do not have the right to request Russian assistance in accordance with international law?
You’re being widely downvoted because you’re downplaying Kiev’s neofascism and essentially saying the Donbass region should accept being ethnically cleansed by Kiev. This is ridiculous, and you know it is, so you downplay the ethnic cleansing in order to protect your own image.
Correct, it is now USA vs the entire world and you have to pick a side
For example that Ukraine is a Nazi state
It’s not a lie, it’s an easily demonstrable fact. But the meme that you are whining and pissing yourself about says nothing about the fact that Ukraine is a Nazi state (which it is). All it says is that there is a common double standard to what many people (presumably western liberals) think what constitutes a “war crime” vs an “unfortunate but necessary” act depending on whether that act was performed by one of the US’s enemies or by the US and its ally regimes. You are just looking for something to throw a fit about.
Dude (or Dudette/Dudettex, before someone shifts the conversation again to gender related topics), having far right/nationalistic groups inside your country doesn’t mean it’s a Nazi-state. Otherwise almost every country of the world would be one. Especially also Russia.
Also me picking this particular post wasn‘t about this particular meme but because it was the 4th or 5th post of OP in my timeline in few minutes. It was spam. And the other ones were way more specific about Ukraine = Nazi.
if you want my personal opinion about this meme and the other countries:
Having the president of a country shaking hands with the nazi group is normal, actually every country do that!
Far right party Svoboda got 2,16% of votes during the 2019 election. By the begin of the war over 300 international scientists and experts in World War Two, Holocaust, national socialism and genocide signed a letter, that Ukraine can’t be called a Nazi-regime, although they have for sure, like every other country, far right people. Also Jewish people in Ukraine publicly claim that they feel more threatened by Putin and Russian missiles than by right extremists inside their country. But for sure, you know better, keyboard warrior.
But let’s follow this reason for war: why isn’t Russia attacking Germany, where the far right party is stronger than ever since WW2? Why isn’t it attacking USA, where MAGA is probably closer to the Nazis than anyone in Europe was since the war? Why isn’t it attacking China, that politics is far far away from national socialism but still highly dominated by racism? Why isn’t it attacking Argentina and southern Brasil, where you still can see and feel in everyday life that many German Nazis moved there after WW2?
What the reason Russia is attacking Ukraine or not have anything to do with Ukraine having a shit tons of nazis and the Ukraine government doing nothing againts them?
Good that you mentioned Brasil, you’ll never see Lula shaking hands with nazis, but you could see Bolsonaro doing this shit.
btw: Pega na minha e balança.
Because this was the main reason Russian government mentioned to justify the attacks.
And I’m sorry, but I think if tomorrow India starts attacking Brazil and far right people playing a significant role in defending it, Lula will also be forced to shake their hands in few years. Just because in this situation they are the lower risk and he needs them.
If Russia stops the war and leaves Ukraine completely, Ukraine will have the chance to show they are doing something against Nazis. The earlier, the easier because they have less time to earn ‚honour in war‘. But as long as Ukraine is dependent on everyone supporting their defence, it won’t be possible.
Also I think it’s always funny to mention this in the context of Russian und Ukrainian war. Putins politic is currently probably closer to Hitler than to any communistic leader.
That isn’t a lie though, since 2014 Ukraine has been governed by Banderites that uphold Nazi collaborators like Stepan Bandera.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/world/europe/ukraine-melnyk-nationalist-collaborator.html