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jankforlife@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

The double standard

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The double standard

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jankforlife@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago
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    Lol, there is literally nothing pro-Russian about this. It has a Russian flag with the implication that liberals see anything Russia does as a war crime even if the same kind of (or worse) atrocities committed by the US are deemed “unfortunate but necessary.” In other words, you don’t even have to accept that Russia isn’t committing war crimes to recognize the truth of the double standard the meme is pointing out. You are a prime example of the kind of dingus this meme is making fun of.

    You, a liberal glimpsing a hint of reality for once in their western-propaganda-saturated life: “Russian Propaganda! [misgendering and/or homophobia]! Putin disinformatzia! [Racism!]” You haven’t gotten to the racism part yet, but the thread is young. Here, I’ll help you along by explaining some facts for you: Russia entered an ongoing civil war and put a stop to the ethnic cleansing that the Nazi Ukrainian government was perpetrating against Ukraine’s eastern population who desperately wanted help from Russia. Fortunately, Russia entering the conflict prevented many more war crimes from being committed by the fascist Kiev regime.

    Edit to add because this is just funny:

    Accounts shouldn’t be allowed to post more than twice a day in the same community

    What a great way to stymie a community and cut down on the thing we all hate: content. Your inability to understand how the world works seems to extend even to the fundamentals of internet forums.

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      You really believe that Ukraine is a Nazi regime, and you accuse others for falling for propaganda? Yikes

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        the american congress tried banned weapons sales to ukraine because of its nazis proclivities in 2015; how are you slower than congress on this?

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          Didn’t they just have a state funeral/celebration of an actual Nazi?

          https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reburies-nazi-collaborator-with-state-honors-drawing-israeli-condemnation/

          Israel criticized Ukraine on Monday after President Volodymyr Zelensky gave full state honors to a Ukrainian nationalist leader who was part of a movement that collaborated with the Nazis during World War II.

          Like they literally just celebrated a fucking nazi and Volodymyr Zelensky led it.

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            yes and poland and isreal already sent their own diplomatic fuck-you responses

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        Yes, and I believe it because I have been following what has been happening in Ukraine since well before February of 2022. The fact that you are unaware of this fact (even one recognized by western media before the SMO) is what is yikes. Thanks to u/freagle for providing some of the mountains of evidence demonstrating beyond all doubt that the Kiev regime is literally a Nazi regime, the most openly Nazi state regime in the world, in fact.

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        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/11/ultranationalism-in-ukraine-a-photo-essay

        https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/ukraine-has-nazi-problem-vladimir-putin-s-denazification-claim-war-ncna1290946

        https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2015-06-12/ukraine-s-neo-nazis-won-t-get-u-s-money

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis

        https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html

        https://www.reuters.com/article/world/in-ukraine-nationalists-gain-influence-and-scrutiny-idUSBREA2618D/

        https://truthout.org/articles/nyt-discovers-ukraines-neo-nazis-at-war/

        https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TC/

        https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/

        https://thehill.com/opinion/international/359609-the-reality-of-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-is-far-from-kremlin-propaganda/

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          Don’t forget (pick the least worse reporting publication)

          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/world/europe/ukraine-melnyk-nationalist-collaborator.html

          https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-reburies-nazi-collaborator-with-state-honors-drawing-israeli-condemnation/

          https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/06/04/zelensky-s-rehabilitation-of-controversial-figures-in-ukrainian-nationalism-sparks-anger-in-israel-and-poland_6754112_4.html

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            Okay so some of your (both of yours) links require subscriptions and in not paying, but the about 5 articles I read exclusively talked about the Azov and one talked about the Colonel Melnyk reburial. Calling a Nazi collaborator from 1940s a hero is obviously a bad look, but that does not equal modern day Ukraine being Nazis.

            And literally all the other articles talk about some sort of far-right volunteer group of militias (Azov) fighting the Russian separatists. How is Azovs political standpoint in any way indicative of the Ukrainian state’s political view as a whole?

            Good luck to you guys!

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              Azov stopped being a volunteer militia when they were formally incorporated into the Ukraine military, given funding, training, and operational support. The government prior to 2014 was very very clear who the bad guys were (Nazis) and who rescued them from the Nazis (Soviets). Since 2014, the government has changed their stance. Now the Soviets were the bad guys and the “Ukrainian nationalists” were the good guys. Except the nationalists were Nazis.

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              a Nazi collaborator from 1940s a hero is obviously a bad look, but that does not equal modern day Ukraine being Nazis.

              Why does this read like you’re trying to soften him? Just say “a Nazi”. Does it feel better to mention he was a Nazi in the 40s, or the “collaboration” part removes him from Nazism? Idk you tell me I guess.

              Also throwing a parade for him in 2026 is what would implicate them being Nazi in modern day. Just FYI

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              It was 3 links but sure.

              Calling a Nazi collaborator from 1940s a hero is obviously a bad look, but that does not equal modern day Ukraine being Nazis.

              It does when it keeps happening.

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              How is Azovs political standpoint in any way indicative of the Ukrainian state’s political view as a whole?

              When the president keep meeting with them, giving prizes, shaking hands and do not comment about the neo-nazi part of it.

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