• brianpeiris@lemmy.caOP
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    people are afraid of losing their jobs to AI.

    Nah, it’s more like they’re pissed their bosses will attempt to replace their jobs with AI that can’t actually do their job, and instead shift that work onto the remaining employees. It’s AI-washing to hide cost-cutting.

    global Beef production uses around 200 times more fresh water than Global Data Centers

    Whataboutism. We’re not the ones using shitty fallacies as arguments. Fuck beef consumption too.

    https://www.techradar.com/pro/security/i-sat-down-with-two-cooling-experts-to-find-out-what-ais-biggest-problem-is-in-the-data-center

    Water cooling can be done in a smaller space with less power, but it requires enormous amount of water. A recent study determined that a single hyper-scaled facility would need 1.5 million liters of water per day to provide cooling and humidification.
    AI is typically deployed in 20-30 cabinet clusters at or above 40 KW per cabinet. This represents a fourfold increase in KW/cabinet with the deployment of AI. The difference is staggering.

    reasonable jurisdictions like British Columbia in Canada
    They’re also not building the damn things right next to millions of residential homes

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/protest-against-ai-data-centres-in-vancouver-9.7210309

    Hundreds of people marched through Vancouver on Saturday to protest two planned AI data centres in the city, raising concerns about the amount of water and energy such facilities can use as the region faces tighter water restrictions.
    The project has the backing of the B.C. government
    The City of Vancouver is also throwing its support behind the proposal
    The protest comes as Metro Vancouver remains under Stage 2 water restrictions, which bans lawn watering, and prepares for the likely move to Stage 3 restrictions sometime in June.
    “I think this is an incredibly inefficient use of land, both in the heart of downtown Vancouver and Mount Pleasant”

    The noise thing is… nothing.

    https://mississippitoday.org/2025/11/24/southaven-residents-fear-pollution-complain-of-noise-from-elon-musks-xai-data-center-turbines/

    Jason Haley, who’s lived in his Southaven home for the last two decades, in August started to hear a whirring, mechanical noise from outside that sounded like a leaf blower.
    The noise would go on for days at a time and through the night, he told Mississippi Today. He soon realized the sounds were coming from a cluster of natural gas turbines about a half mile away.
    Over the summer, billionaire Elon Musk’s artificial intelligence company set up shop in north Mississippi, erecting dozens of turbines on the site of a former power plant to fuel two data centers just up the road in Memphis.

    I’m going to have to start using a browser extension to label trolls like the reddit days.

    • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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      You downplay how useful the technology is, if it’s that bad why not just let it fail? It’s because you know that it isn’t actually that bad, and that it’s getting better really fast.

      You are however the ones who are not protesting beef production, while likely eating beef or tree nuts, both of which make data center water use look like a baby sipping a lake through a straw.

      It’s not whataboutism, it’s calling you out for being a a hypocrite.

      As for Vancouver, a place I am intimately familiar with, Hundreds of people are still stupid as fuck.

      Here’s an article completely debunking the water use argument for the Vancouver datacenter, which won’t use evaporative cooling technology. https://thetyee.ca/News/2026/05/25/Questions-AI-Data-Centres-Vancouver/

      Summer water restrictions of level 2 and 3 are completely fucking normal even without the data centers, and only ban… Surprise surprise, LAWN WATERING! because it’s so fucking wasteful.

      The Turbines at the xAI datacenter are stupid, and a reasonable jurisdiction wouldn’t allow them to exist. The fact that the government isn’t stopping them when they are illegally installed is not a datacenter issue, it’s a government issue. Most datacenters aren’t pulling that kind of shit. Elon Musk is just an asshole.

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      I wouldn’t have considered the noise pollution to exceed the scope of a nuisance and disruption to wildlife habitat, but Benn Jordan did a pretty good job demonstrating infrasound’s capacity to impact human health.