• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    16 hours ago

    it’s totally possible that only a biological brain can produce minds as we understand the word “mind”.

    Bollocks. Thought is a process, like math. Nothing meat does with signals is impossible in other substrates.

    At the utmost extreme: surely we can simulate physics at whatever level is necessary for virtual brains to function. Physical neurons are not gonna rely on quantum chromodynamics. Mere chemistry will probably suffice.

    And hand-waving things that are like-minds-but sounds like Chinese Room nonsense.

    • dave@feddit.uk
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      8 hours ago

      You say that, and GAs were used decades ago to design FPGAs to a spec. The evolved design worked perfectly on the test chip, so the design was copied onto a second chip and it failed. The logic gates were identical but the GA had utilised microscopic differences in the substrate and there were large areas of programmed chip totally unconnected to the main circuit. Without them, the first chip didn’t work any more.

      There are likely quantum effects available at the size / scale of neurons, and it’s brave to say evolution wouldn’t exploit them if there was some benefit.

      • lad@programming.dev
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        6 hours ago

        The scale of neurons is too big for quantum effects, but that’s contemporary understanding that may change in the future. We’re really far from understanding both what mind is and how to make one