From my perspective as an American, I find it difficult to reconcile these two statements:
“I want everyone to treat them equally and not discriminate against them”
“I’m kind of in a gray area”
In practice, there is no middle ground in American politics. You vote Republican, or you vote Democrat. This is most true in presidential elections but still generally true in state and even local elections throughout the country. The parties are pretty well aligned top to bottom. Conservative or liberal.
Like you, I want everybody to be treated equally. For me, there’s no gray area about it. I hate how little choice I have in politics, but this is the reality I live in, and this is the reality I have to vote in.
If you have a clear alignment to one party or the other, I wouldn’t call that a “gray area”. And if you don’t? If you don’t have a clear alignment to one or the other? In America? In the 2020s? When one party is very clearly, and very persistently violating that core value of “treat them equally and not discriminate against them”? Like I said, it’s hard for me to reconcile.
That’s my perspective. Even assuming you are also American, I don’t think you’re a bad person. However, I do think it’s worth really reexamining what’s important to you. I hope that when it comes time to vote, you will not turn your back on that core value of equality. Let it be a high priority. Leave that gray area.
You kidding? You think I vote republican? Those mother fuckers are nuts.
But the “left” (what I call right-lite) isn’t some picnic either.
I have allegiances to nobody. Both parties are trash. Off with their heads.
It’s people like you who think it’s an “One or the other” deal. No. Fuck that. Not all votes have an ® or (D) next to them.
But as soon as I say that some lunatic is going to come around and claim “you’re throwing your vote to the OTHER party by doing that!”…fuck off with that shit too.
You think I vote republican? Those mother fuckers are nuts.
I thought by “gray area” you meant that you are roughly 50-50 on the parties. I apologize if I misunderstood.
I’d be interested to hear who you are voting for who’s not D or R, though I don’t expect you to doxx yourself with local election details. I do vote for third parties and independent candidates in some local elections when that’s viable. Even then, much of the time it’s the same candidate endorsed by one of the major parties. I support the adoption of ranked-choice voting (or something similar) at all levels of elections so that third parties in bigger elections can be more than spoilers. I lived through 2000. I saw how that goes.
Many other countries have a wide variety of parties and more political choice. I believe it’s possible for America to get there as well in the future. When it comes to the presidential election, like I said, I have to vote in the reality I live in and I don’t consider it a gray area. It sounds like we just disagree on what’s “gray” here.
The more local you get, the more subtleties there are.
Honestly I can’t wait for ranked choice voting to take hold too - but it won’t without violent revolution in my lifetime. That’s kind of the issue we find ourselves in. Politicians are constantly shown unwilling to hold themselves accountable, they are essentially unpoliceable (though I’m hoping that we’re seeing this change). This sham as fuck country is balls-deep in corruption, and at the risk of sounding like trump-tard, there are some pretty clear instances where Dems seem like they are not willing to shine a light on vote disparities. When it comes to Republicans, every accusation is a confession. I’m pretty sure Dems are aware of this shit going on too, but are unwilling to rock the boat because they’re afraid of what’s coming – the American people being untrusting in our elections.
That’s part of what all of this bullshit stems from in the first place. There’s a minority in this country that make garbage laws for people they don’t govern. I’m living in it right now. DeSanctimonious and his “don’t say gay” laws are bullshit. All of the books being stripped from libraries right now, is backwards. I am literally sick of hearing about it constantly. I don’t want to talk about it, I want to talk to people about things that matter. I want to discuss how to help people fix their cars. I want to teach people how to design and engineer robots. I don’t give a shit who you are. I would actually take JOY in never knowing another persons name, gender, gender identity, sex, child status, marriage status, etc ever again. That’s what’s so wonderful about the internet and conversations like these. Nobody ever brings it up! It’s a wonderful place and I wish the real world were the same.
From my perspective as an American, I find it difficult to reconcile these two statements:
“I want everyone to treat them equally and not discriminate against them”
“I’m kind of in a gray area”
In practice, there is no middle ground in American politics. You vote Republican, or you vote Democrat. This is most true in presidential elections but still generally true in state and even local elections throughout the country. The parties are pretty well aligned top to bottom. Conservative or liberal.
Like you, I want everybody to be treated equally. For me, there’s no gray area about it. I hate how little choice I have in politics, but this is the reality I live in, and this is the reality I have to vote in.
If you have a clear alignment to one party or the other, I wouldn’t call that a “gray area”. And if you don’t? If you don’t have a clear alignment to one or the other? In America? In the 2020s? When one party is very clearly, and very persistently violating that core value of “treat them equally and not discriminate against them”? Like I said, it’s hard for me to reconcile.
That’s my perspective. Even assuming you are also American, I don’t think you’re a bad person. However, I do think it’s worth really reexamining what’s important to you. I hope that when it comes time to vote, you will not turn your back on that core value of equality. Let it be a high priority. Leave that gray area.
You kidding? You think I vote republican? Those mother fuckers are nuts.
But the “left” (what I call right-lite) isn’t some picnic either.
I have allegiances to nobody. Both parties are trash. Off with their heads.
It’s people like you who think it’s an “One or the other” deal. No. Fuck that. Not all votes have an ® or (D) next to them.
But as soon as I say that some lunatic is going to come around and claim “you’re throwing your vote to the OTHER party by doing that!”…fuck off with that shit too.
I thought by “gray area” you meant that you are roughly 50-50 on the parties. I apologize if I misunderstood.
I’d be interested to hear who you are voting for who’s not D or R, though I don’t expect you to doxx yourself with local election details. I do vote for third parties and independent candidates in some local elections when that’s viable. Even then, much of the time it’s the same candidate endorsed by one of the major parties. I support the adoption of ranked-choice voting (or something similar) at all levels of elections so that third parties in bigger elections can be more than spoilers. I lived through 2000. I saw how that goes.
Many other countries have a wide variety of parties and more political choice. I believe it’s possible for America to get there as well in the future. When it comes to the presidential election, like I said, I have to vote in the reality I live in and I don’t consider it a gray area. It sounds like we just disagree on what’s “gray” here.
The more local you get, the more subtleties there are.
Honestly I can’t wait for ranked choice voting to take hold too - but it won’t without violent revolution in my lifetime. That’s kind of the issue we find ourselves in. Politicians are constantly shown unwilling to hold themselves accountable, they are essentially unpoliceable (though I’m hoping that we’re seeing this change). This sham as fuck country is balls-deep in corruption, and at the risk of sounding like trump-tard, there are some pretty clear instances where Dems seem like they are not willing to shine a light on vote disparities. When it comes to Republicans, every accusation is a confession. I’m pretty sure Dems are aware of this shit going on too, but are unwilling to rock the boat because they’re afraid of what’s coming – the American people being untrusting in our elections.
That’s part of what all of this bullshit stems from in the first place. There’s a minority in this country that make garbage laws for people they don’t govern. I’m living in it right now. DeSanctimonious and his “don’t say gay” laws are bullshit. All of the books being stripped from libraries right now, is backwards. I am literally sick of hearing about it constantly. I don’t want to talk about it, I want to talk to people about things that matter. I want to discuss how to help people fix their cars. I want to teach people how to design and engineer robots. I don’t give a shit who you are. I would actually take JOY in never knowing another persons name, gender, gender identity, sex, child status, marriage status, etc ever again. That’s what’s so wonderful about the internet and conversations like these. Nobody ever brings it up! It’s a wonderful place and I wish the real world were the same.
That’s a quality rant, well done!