What’s your recommendation for listening to music privately?
My requirements are: open source desktop/web (Linux) and android app. I also want basically every song I would ever want.
I’m willing to pay just not on agregious amount of money.
If you are posting your recommendation please care to include the tradeoffs or any annoyances you got from it.
Thanks all!


Self-host Navidrome. Choose any of the clients that you like. Pirate stuff from big bands, buy stuff from smaller bands.
Cons: You’d have to deal with storage and hosting and access from outside your house e.g. with Tailscale. You’d also have to tag incorrectly tagged songs (surprisingly common issue, sometimes pirates tag stuff better than the bands themselves)
Adding Tempo as a mobile app.
Is there a way to use tailscale/similar software with mullvad aswell
Easier solution: some routers have built-in VPN access. Mine supports a Wireguard and OpenVPN tunnel directly into my network.
As for incorrectly tagged media files, Picard can fingerprint and auto-tag your files in batch.
I got other people on my network who prefer faster internet speeds over privacy, sadly. And I dont wanna be rude and just force them to do something they don’t want to do. (Even if it’s for the greater good)
Also attaching it to my router won’t work when I’m out travelling or away from home.
Picard seems awesome btw.
This would not impact internet speed for anyone else on your network. Whether they’re connected via Ethernet or WiFi, they’d have the same speeds as before.
As for a Wireguard connection tunnelling in from outside, it has so little overhead that it does not meaningfully impact speed or latency (I’d know, I use it every day).
Also, you can set up the tunnel as a split tunnel. This means that
I’m not sure what you mean by “it” here. Feel free to fill in the blank.
Yes, you can run a tailscale container or installed directly on your host machine and then run a vpn container like gluetun and input your mullvad credentials into the docker yaml. Then any containers you choose to run will be behind gluetun aka mullvad and all connect to your tailscale ip.
I’m not really much understanding what’s going on here. Your saying if I run this “gluetun” software and JUST have tailscale running on my device, all my traffic will still be routed thru mullvad. If so, will this greatly affect internet speeds? (Even the traffic not needed by tailscale is still routed thru)
Gluetun is a container to allow vpn connections. In docker any container you want to use the vpn connection you would put network_mode: service:gluetun and those containers would then use the vpn connection. With tailscale you would still access those containers through your tailscale ip address but they will be behind the gluetun vpn container. Tailscale doesnt act as a vpn as in masking your online activity it only secures your server from being accessed from outside of your tailnet. You can enable mullvad in tailscale but that provides mullvad exit nodes that any internet activity outside of your containers would be behind. Gluetun allows you to put your containers behind vpn as well. As far as speeds go, it might slow down abit but not much
No it has very little overhead. But you’ll need to choose between tailscale of mullvad on your phone since you can’t have two different VPN clients running at once on your phone.
Not true. If you enable mullvad in tailscale then when you have tailscale installed and enabled on your phone it allows you to route your phone through mullvad which has been enabled in the tailscale console. Its true about only one vpn connection, but with tailscale it provides mullvad connections in the app if you enable it in the tailscale console. Then you can access your containers remotely through tailscale and also have all your internet traffic go through mullvad all in the tailscale app
Add to this Linarr + IPTorrents and you are ready to go :)
you mean lidarr?
Oh yeah, definitely ^^ Sorry for mistake :)
Is linarr able to take a Spotify play list and get those songs?
I tried that once and it downloaded a ton of shit I didn’t want and filled up my 8 TB of storage
Its lidarr not linarr, and yes. However lidarr is build to get entire releases at once (eg. Entire albums or single releases) and not individual songs.
Yes! I misspelled it :P