By the true definitions though, the only system that works is blended between government control and free industry.
Giving government total control over the economy is foolhardy and will always lead to a strong man dicking everyone over in any large country. But giving industry total freedom is equally unworkable. There is no total free market, nor is there any completely government controlled one to speak of.
OP is conflating free market absolutist self serving arguments with capitalism, as if socialism wasn’t still capitalist. You better fucking hope it is, you can’t have the government involved in everything, but they need to be involved in making sure the needs of society are provided for equitably. If private industry can’t do it on their own, government needs to one way or another.
WTF does hierarchy have to do with allowing a mix of private business and regulation and state run business?
What do you call the goddamned government you give 100% control to in this ridiculous definition you guys are pushing?
There is no country with a pure capitalist, nor pure communist, system. Socialism is by definition a mixture of the two. It’s like talking to people that have only spoken with maga dipshits for 10 years.
WTF does hierarchy have to do with allowing a mix of private business and regulation and state run business?
Hierarchies are the underpinnings of governments and businesses. Both need to go.
What do you call the goddamned government you give 100% control to in this ridiculous definition you guys are pushing?
I call it a hierarchy.
There is no country with a pure capitalist, nor pure communist, system. Socialism is by definition a mixture of the two. It’s like talking to people that have only spoken with maga dipshits for 10 years.
That’s because anarchist societies aren’t considered countries, and their successes are intentionally buried. There are more options than just socialism and capitalism.
By the true definitions though, the only system that works is blended between government control and free industry.
Giving government total control over the economy is foolhardy and will always lead to a strong man dicking everyone over in any large country. But giving industry total freedom is equally unworkable. There is no total free market, nor is there any completely government controlled one to speak of.
OP is conflating free market absolutist self serving arguments with capitalism, as if socialism wasn’t still capitalist. You better fucking hope it is, you can’t have the government involved in everything, but they need to be involved in making sure the needs of society are provided for equitably. If private industry can’t do it on their own, government needs to one way or another.
I suspect your definition of “works” is a low standard.
Even in mixed economies, capital will erode personal freedoms and lead to inequality, suffering, and abuse of power.
All hierarchy needs abolished.
WTF does hierarchy have to do with allowing a mix of private business and regulation and state run business?
What do you call the goddamned government you give 100% control to in this ridiculous definition you guys are pushing?
There is no country with a pure capitalist, nor pure communist, system. Socialism is by definition a mixture of the two. It’s like talking to people that have only spoken with maga dipshits for 10 years.
Hierarchies are the underpinnings of governments and businesses. Both need to go.
I call it a hierarchy.
That’s because anarchist societies aren’t considered countries, and their successes are intentionally buried. There are more options than just socialism and capitalism.
Socialism is not capitalist by any definition of any word ever. What an absurd thing to say.