Like the title says, my partner’s laptop was still running Windows 10 and they got infected with a backdoor malware. We’ll need to reset her computer. It’s an Asus Tuf Gaming A15.

She’s been using Windows 10 for as long as she could but support is running out. At her work the computers are on Windows 11 and she hates it. Plus she’s fervently anti-AI and wants none of that forced Copilot bullshit and privacy eroding features of Windows 11. She’s seen me use it for over a year now and I also installed it on our old OG 1st gen MS Surface Pro table and she sees how well it’s going. So now she wants Linux on her laptop.

After careful consideration and comparisons, I’ve decided to go with Zorin OS. I thought of Linux Mint, but it just looks so dated. There are inconistencies in the looks and I feel it lacks some features that I found that Zorin OS has. (It’s essentially Gnome with QoL extras.) My only concern is that Zorin has Snaps out of the box but I don’t think that’s a concern for her. I’ll install it on a BTRFS partition with automatic snapshots and grub-btrfs to recover from snapshots. And I’ll schedule monthly backups of her files through rsync, or whatever the built-in backup tool does, onto an external drive.

I’ve tried Zorin on a VM and it was already outstanding. On the live USB session it was able to detect her NVidia card and recommend either the nouveau or NVidia proprietary driver. Everything worked out of the box. So I’m fairly confident everything will work well. One concern I have is she uses her personal laptop for work, and needs to connect to her work’s Microsoft account. I see there’s an accounts section in the settings where this can be set up, but I’ve never used it, so that’ll be a first. Her work also requires Cisco AnyConnect VPN client. There is a Linux client, but you need a Cisco account to download it, and her work IT department does not support Linux, so I don’t know if she’ll be able to get it. One of the IT people has Linux on his machine and was able to set it up so maybe we’ll rely on him for that part. She’ll also need MS Office which uses a work license. I wonder how that will work on Bottles. We can try with Libre Office but I know the spacing and fonts get all wonky when you open a MS Word document or a Powerpoint presentation. Every other app she uses is open source apps like Gimp, Inkscape, Audacity, etc. And she doesn’t game much, but I know this will work just fine. And the Gnome-Network-Displays will allow her to cast her screen onto our NVidia Shield device for watching movies.

Is there anything else I should be concerned about? Maybe hardware wise? Or anything to so with Snaps that could cause issues?

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    How is Zorin a “niche Ubuntu derivative” and Bazzite is not a “niche Fedora derivative”? Bazzite is way more niche and way more derivative and most Fedora commands won’t work on it.

    Meanwhile any troubleshooting that works on Ubuntu (probably the most popular Linux distro?), Mint, Debian, etc. will all work on Zorin.

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      Bazzite is way more niche

      Well, ackchyually...

      If this is used to mean “less popular”, then I’d like to (gently) push back on that.

      Sure; we’ve all seen the reports of Zorin OS being downloaded millions of times since last year’s release. I’m glad to hear they’re doing good.

      However, downloads =/= unique downloads =/= retention =/= actual usage =/= community. As telemetry is a no-go on most distros, we’ve got to look elsewhere for our comparison…

      I’ll spare you the details, but across the many metrics found below, -if anything- I’d ultimately suggest that Bazzite is more popular than Zorin OS.

      Metrics looked at:

      • Google Trends (including web search and YouTube search)
      • GitHub
      • Steam Survey
      • ProtonDB
      • Respective subreddits
      • Discord
      • Discourse/forum on own website. (This is actually the only one in which Zorin OS did better.)

      To be clear, I don’t claim the above is airtight or anything; it’s just my best effort (without trying to be actually exhaustive). But please, if you believe there’s a (major) oversight in my methodology, then feel free to correct me.

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          Response :P .

          Your sources are all biased towards gamers for the most part.

          Could you please explain how that applies to (at least one out of) Google Trends, GitHub, respective subreddits and discourse/forum on own website? (To be clear, I concede that Discord is probs skewed towards gamers as well.)

          Sorry but Steam survey?

          It’s probs one of the best metrics we got out there. Even if it’s biased towards “gaming distros”. Below you may find the stats for June:

          Proton DB???

          It’s basically this. Perhaps best known by visuals like the one found below:


          It goes without saying that this endeavour would have been a lot easier, more direct and actually tangible if I could find public numbers on the usage of Zorin OS. They do collect it through the zorin-os-census package (source), but I think they only use it internally (or so). By contrast, Bazzite publishes them. See the image found below:


          For completeness’ sake, there are other metrics that have come to (my) mind:

          • Distrowatch.
          • Comparing the amount of ISO downloads with a lot of inferencing and guesswork. Even being generous and optimistic towards Bazzite wouldn’t have been sufficient for it to outdo Zorin OS’ numbers, though. So that would make it the second metric in favor of Zorin OS.

          Btw, OP, I’m absolutely fine with you discrediting the used metrics. But, please, at least suggest something else as an alternative. Being dismissive without putting out anything substantial yourself doesn’t help your case.